3 Exercises You Need to STOP NOW for Longevity at 70, 80 & Beyond
By Health Reveal
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Stop Upright Rows: High Risk for Shoulder Impingement**: The traditional upright row places your shoulder in the same position used to diagnose impingement, leading to accumulated stress and potential long-term pain. A safer alternative, the high pull, offers similar muscle engagement with reduced risk. [01:02], [02:17] - **Unsupported Bench Flies Degrade Shoulder Capsule**: Performing unsupported bench flies puts your shoulder in end-range extension under load, which can chronically stress and degrade the shoulder capsule, especially as it becomes more fragile with age. Floor flies offer a safer alternative by preventing overextension. [02:36], [03:53] - **Cuban Presses: Unnecessary Risk for Older Adults**: Cuban presses combine internal rotation with overhead pressing, a risky combination for the shoulder's inherent instability, especially with age. A standard overhead press provides similar strength benefits without the added rotational stress. [04:23], [05:50] - **Aging Reduces Recovery, Increases Injury Stakes**: While a 20-year-old might recover from injury in days, a 60-year-old may take months or years, and one bad gym decision at 70 or 80 can significantly limit independence. Training choices now directly impact future quality of life. [00:37], [07:34] - **Elite Athlete Compensations Don't Apply to You**: Elite athletes can compensate for poor exercise mechanics due to highly refined nervous systems, but this doesn't translate to the average person, especially as they age. Copying their movements without understanding this difference leads to injury. [05:01], [05:28] - **Cumulative Stress, Not Acute Injury, Harms Longevity**: The danger in exercises like upright rows, bench flies, and Cuban presses lies not in immediate injury, but in thousands of repetitions causing cumulative joint stress. This leads to progressive degradation and limitations that manifest later in life. [06:01], [06:27]
Topics Covered
- Aging recovery isn't a myth, it's a reality check.
- Upright rows mimic injury tests, making them dangerous.
- Unsupported bench flies degrade shoulder capsules over time.
- Elite athletes compensate; you don't have that luxury.
- Your training today dictates your quality of life tomorrow.
Full Transcript
that he was showing me videos doing
workouts and he was just pointing out
all of the horrible mistakes they were
making.
>> Said, "You get hurt at 50 or 60. It's
really debilitating. You don't heal."
People get on me because I have what I
call the iron graveyard, right? There's
a few exercises that just belong in
there. And one of them for me is the
upright row. It's a garbage exercise.
>> Most people think they're training for
longevity. They're training for injury.
Here's the truth about aging and
recovery. As Mike Bole explains,
>> look at my son and his friends. They'll
get hurt and two days later they'll be
like, I'm fine. And I look at them and
think, I'd be 6 months crippled if I did
what you did.
>> That's the reality. A 20-year-old
recovers from shoulder pain in days. A
60-year-old might take months or maybe
years to recover. And by the time you're
70 or 80, one bad decision in the gym
can steal your freedom. I'm going to
show you three exercises that look
legitimate that most people do, but are
quietly destroying your future. More
importantly, I'll show you exactly what
to do instead because safer alternatives
exist that deliver the same results.
Exercise number one, the upright row.
The upright row is everywhere. Crossfit
boxes, commercial gyms, YouTube
channels, it looks like a power move.
It's not. It's a shoulder impingement
waiting to happen. Here's the problem.
When you do a traditional upright row,
your elbows go high, your hands stay
narrow, and your shoulders internally
rotate. You know what else puts your
shoulder in that exact position? The
test physical therapists use to diagnose
shoulder impingement. Jeff Cavalier, a
physical therapist himself, makes this
point crystal clear.
>> Hold the barbell and you lift it up here
up up under your chin. Your elbows are
much higher than your wrists are. That
position is literally the test as a
physical therapist that we put somebody
in to try to see if they have
impingement in their shoulder. We
>> think about that. You're voluntarily
putting your shoulder in the exact
position used to diagnose injury. Now
imagine doing that position repeatedly
under load 10,000 times over decades. At
50, you might feel fine. At 60, you
start noticing tightness. By 70, you
can't reach overhead without pain. By
80, you can't brush your hair
comfortably. This didn't happen
overnight. It happened because of
accumulated stress on tendons that were
never designed for that range of motion
while loaded. The worst part, you don't
need this exercise. The high pull does
everything the upright row does. It hits
your traps, your delts, your shoulders.
But here's the difference. Your elbows
stay lower than your wrists. Your
shoulders externally rotate instead of
internally rotate. Same muscle groups,
same strength gains, zero impingement
risk. Why would you pick the dangerous
version? Exercise number two,
unsupported bench flies. Bench flies are
the second exercise killing your
longevity. And I get it, they feel
amazing. That deep stretch across your
chest is addictive. It makes you feel
like you're building muscle. Might be.
You're building shoulder problems. When
you lie on a bench and bring dumbbells
out to your sides, you're putting your
shoulder in endrange extension under
load. For a 25-year-old with resilient
shoulder tissue, this is fine. For
someone 60 or older, your anterior
shoulder capsule, the connective tissue
holding your shoulder joints together,
becomes progressively more fragile with
age. This repeated stretching stresses
that capsule chronically. Over years, it
degrades. Instability develops. Then
comes the pain, the inflammation,
sometimes the need for surgery. Jeff
Cavalier addresses this exact concern
directly.
>> I I put the unsupported bench fly in the
graveyard simply because probably
because of my history working with with
pitchers and knowing how susceptible the
the shoulder capsule can become from
chronic overstretching and then we apply
a load in that position at the same
time. And
>> Arnold Schwarzenegger tore his pec doing
this exercise. He had elite genetics,
elite recovery, and access to the
world's best medical care. He still got
hurt. If it can happen to Arnold, what
makes you think your 65-year-old
shoulder is immune? Here's what you do
instead. Floor flies. Same movement
pattern, same chest activation, same
stretch, but now the floor provides a
safety net. You physically can't
overextend. Better yet, you can use
heavier weight because the floor gives
you an eccentric advantage. You get more
muscle stimulus with less joint risk. or
use a machine fly or dumbbell presses
all deliver chest hypertrophy without
the anterior capsule vulnerability. The
principle is simple. If I can get equal
results with less risk, why do the risky
version? Exercise number three, Cuban
presses. The Cuban press combines
internal rotation with overhead
pressing. It's a shoulder specialist's
worst nightmare and a longevity killer.
What does it give you that a standard
overhead press doesn't? Honestly,
nothing worth mentioning. Maybe a
slightly different angle, maybe a tiny
bit of novelty. What does it take away?
Joint integrity. The shoulder is already
the most mobile, most unstable joint in
your body. Add age into the equation and
mobility becomes a liability rather than
an asset. You need stability more than
you need another creative pressing
variation. People do Cuban presses
because it looks cool. It looks like
something an athlete would do. But
here's the critical insight most people
miss. Elite athletes can get away with
movement patterns that would destroy a
normal person. Their nervous systems are
so refined that they compensate
flawlessly.
>> How much did you see that Mike when you
were training pros?
>> I literally just wrote down the better
the athlete, the better the compensator.
That was a note that I
>> of compensation is what we used to call.
>> Yeah. I used to look at these guys and
think like my god it's amazing what they
can get away with at that level.
>> You're not them. Your 65-year-old
shoulder isn't as gifted at
compensation. This is the mistake
everyone makes copying elite athletes
without understanding that their success
isn't because of how they train. It's
despite how they train. They're
exceptional at compensating for poor
mechanics. You're not exceptional. Your
70-year-old shoulder isn't built for
experimental pressing angles. At 70 or
80, you don't need Cuban presses. You
need robust shoulders that move through
pain-free ranges. A standard overhead
press with dumbbells gives you exactly
that. Same strength, same muscle, same
results without the unnecessary
rotational stress that accumulates into
chronic pain. The cumulative damage. All
three of these exercises share one
critical thing. They create cumulative
joint stress that doesn't manifest as
acute injury. It manifests as
progressive degradation. At 50, you feel
fine. At 60, you notice tightness. At
70, you have limitations. At 80, basic
movements hurt. This is the insight most
people miss. Your training at 45
determines your quality of life at 75.
Not from one dramatic injury, but from
thousands of repetitions in poor
positions. The damage is invisible until
it's irreversible. Each rep isn't
dangerous in isolation, but 10,000 reps
in internal rotation equals chronic
inflammation. 20 years of bench flies
equals anterior capsule degradation. By
70, you're paying the price with limited
mobility and chronic pain. Jeff Cavalier
articulates this perfectly. So, it's
okay to to understand that this is a
long game and you might want to take a
step back and and stay with the
exercises that don't cause pain and
allow yourself a chance to be actively
mobile to still recover at the same
time.
>> The framework is straightforward. Any
exercise that creates chronic joint
stress, especially in the shoulder,
needs to be evaluated against
alternatives. If a safer version exists
that delivers equal results, the choice
is obvious. The real goal training
changes after 50. It's not about
aesthetics anymore. It's not about who
can lift the most weight. It's about
preserving independence. It's about
playing with grandchildren without
shoulder pain. It's about reaching
overhead shelves, throwing a baseball,
moving freely without discomfort. The
healing capacity of your body is not
what it was. The stakes are higher. The
recovery is slower. The consequences are
steeper. When you're young, you have
time to recover from mistakes. When
you're 60, 70, 80, you don't have that
luxury. One significant shoulder injury
could limit your function for years. A
75-year-old who moves well and pain-free
is living in a completely different
reality than one with chronic shoulder,
knee, and back pain. That difference
isn't determined by genetics or luck.
It's determined by the exercises you
choose now. It's determined by whether
you prioritize joint health over
short-term gains. Your future self will
either thank you or curse you based on
decisions made today. The upright row,
the bench fly, the Cuban press, they're
not making you stronger for longevity.
They're obstacles to it. Replace them
with the alternatives I mentioned. Your
shoulders at 80 will thank
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