ADHD or Trauma Noise? - 4 Examples
By Patrick Teahan
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Trauma noise mimics ADHD symptoms**: Childhood trauma can manifest as 'trauma noise,' a collection of unprocessed events and emotions that often present with symptoms similar to ADHD, leading to potential misdiagnosis. [01:45], [04:32] - **Core beliefs from trauma impact functioning**: Unprocessed trauma noise includes core beliefs like 'I'm unlovable' or 'I must take care of others,' which develop during childhood survival and continue to influence adult functioning. [07:14], [14:49] - **Communication issues linked to childhood trauma**: Difficulties in communication, such as tripping over words, overthinking social interactions, or blurting out insensitive remarks, can stem from childhood experiences where communication was often terrifying or modeled poorly. [17:39], [18:36] - **Low frustration tolerance rooted in trauma**: A low tolerance for frustration, often seen as an ADHD symptom, can be rooted in childhood trauma where parents modeled low frustration tolerance or created an unfair, dismissive environment. [27:00], [28:06] - **Impulsivity as a trauma response**: Impulsive actions, like making rash decisions or acting without thinking of consequences, can be trauma noise, stemming from being unconscious or not grounded due to childhood experiences. [21:13], [22:49]
Topics Covered
- Trauma Noise: A Symphony of Unprocessed Emotions
- Why Trauma Can Mimic ADHD Symptoms
- The Four Components of Trauma Noise
- Low Frustration Tolerance: Trauma vs. ADHD
- The Hidden 'Benefit' of Living in Upset
Full Transcript
[Music]
in a recent video I did on ADHD I shared
about how bad my functioning was around
the age of 20 right before I started to
do my own childhood trauma work and I
talked about how I could never really
get it together in the way that I wanted
to I was late for everything I was
somewhat dissociated in say just basic
talking with people was never really on
top of my bills had some magical
thinking going on like thinking I can
get across town in five minutes when it
really takes 45 and I had this constant
nagging sense that I was defective and
really somewhat wasn't going to make it
in life um I was also impulsive with
money constantly behind the eightball
and pretty much kind of a mess um and
many of you really resonated with my
description of all that or for how I was
in the world at that time and an
interesting piece um that is the main
point to this video is I I couldn't
really meditate until I did some work
around my childhood trauma which is
interesting as much as I tried I
couldn't get to a calm Focus place in
order to do that and I'm going to come
back to that later I wanted to go into
deeper about what specifically in my
childhood trauma what was it that made
my functioning that off that got better
through treatment um in my first two or
three years of Private Practice I saw my
client struggle with the same things
that I struggled with like distraction
disregulation General adulting um and
many would lose their focus in not
having the confidence about relying on
themselves for General living just like
my experience like something was
preventing them from getting there and I
started to call that thing simply trauma
noise trauma noise is the cumulative
unprocessed events emotions grief shame
Injustice um emotional physical sexual
abuse family Dynamics stuff that we saw
all of it and some of it's conscious but
actually most of it isn't and I see it
as repressed but I still think it runs
our system even though that it's
repressed trauma noise is like having a
bunch of songs being played at the same
time in your head or in our subconscious
and it's not a cool matchup it's not a
good time you know none of it's in tune
none of it's lined up and the brain is
overwhelmed with dealing with trying to
manage all that while still functioning
or pretending that it's not there and
that part is exhaust one song is say
your parents divorce another is the
relationship that you had with one of
them um one is what happened to you or
to your siblings one is the things you
said or did growing up because you were
traumatized another is a is a specific
collection of things that happen such as
bullying inside or outside the home and
all of that is on repeat in our
subconscious playing at once um
sometimes quiet and sometimes really
cranked up when we're triggered like one
song will then take take precedence when
we say we get feedback or work or we're
triggered to intimacy with our partner
and I think they're on repeat because
they're asking to be processed like how
we have specific recurring dreams or
images from time to time and we're just
trying to do life with all that going on
just trying to make it through work or
navigate relationships or simply to just
get through our day also this isn't me
trying to like freak you out or Gaslight
you about feeling that you're worse off
than you are of course this stuff is
there and you've actually managed to
deal with it so far um and you're okay I
just want you to have a a stronger
understanding of your triggers and stuck
places related to this concept in
context and not confusing it with ADHD
and as a side note deep processing of
childhood trauma isn't for everybody and
that should be respected sometimes it is
best to just leave it be and function as
best as you can that should be respected
so I'd like to give some specific
examples of trauma noise in this video
video and look at how they often get
confused with ADHD in my mind here are
some major bullet points about this
video just like the last one I did on
this topic which was ADHD versus cptsd
number one is in no way am I discounting
the diagnosis of ADHD number two is I'm
giving the framework for adults with
ADHD symptoms or trauma symptoms not
children I'm not suggesting that ADHD is
always caused by trauma and I'm what I
am saying is cptsd can often be
misdiagnosed for ADHD because they look
so similar that the major deciding
factor would be a person's history of
childhood trauma which is complicated
cuz some don't remember so I get that
part um in the last video the message is
you certainly can have cpts and ADHD
both going on and doing therapy work for
either can be very much helpful so it's
it's all okay I see in the mental health
World though that we don't consider
childhood trauma enough and it's usually
gloss over so I'm offering another
possibility as in my history the more I
worked deeply in my childhood trauma the
higher my capacity for functioning was
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so the best way I can share this idea of
trauma noise is through a visual as
childhood trauma survivors we're all
sitting on a lot and trying to just do
our best in life we're trying to show up
to our relationships or our children or
careers or just trying to be just trying
to be a person either when we're
activated or triggered in some ways or
whether we're just at our Baseline
emotions these things still affect our
functioning because the noise is still
there just might not be on full volume
like when we're triggered and I don't
believe that the things that we're
sitting on go away as much as we try to
either repress it deny it or ignore it I
think trauma comes out sideways when we
try to push it down it comes out in
other ways um and I look at trauma noise
as a collective of what happened to us
and that becomes our conditioning here's
what I mean the noise consists of
unprocessed things like our core beliefs
that come from childhood trauma examples
being I'm unlovable if people disrespect
me they should be punished I'll never
have what others have it's my job to
take care of others these are developed
during our survival of of childhood
trauma make sense of what's going on
around us the second piece is
unprocessed incidents scenes from
childhood that pop up in our minds or in
our dreams subconsciously they can also
come in the forms of fighting with
people in our heads like I've mentioned
and not connecting the present fight in
our heads to stuff that came up in
childhood um these are all this is all
the abuse that happened to us or stuff
that we saw as children anything from
being abused by a sibling to seeing a
sibling get abused by somebody else the
the third thing is our history of
traumatized self raise your hand out
there if you've been trying to go to
sleep and your brain decides to randomly
focus on what you said in the eighth
grade that one time and kind of made a
fool out of yourself or when you
actually weren't really good to another
kid for trying to fit in or things that
you said or did to somebody that you
know that when you were dating we all
human but I find that those who grow up
in in trauma they act out because of the
parental trauma and then we feel like
we're terrible humans we were giving off
these signs it's not what we would have
chosen to behave like that even if we
were safe at home or grew up in
normaly and the fourth piece is Big it's
family Legacy and shame I really think
that most of our unconscious behaviors
and stuff comes from trying to not be
like our parents one or both of them so
when when the when your debit card gets
declined for whatever reason and the
trauma noise kind of pops up and takes
over and it it kind of takes the
opportunity to pop up and say see you're
just like your mooching father or you're
just like your manipulative mother and
everyone can see or you can't hide that
you're just like them about money or
that you know see Mom and Dad were right
about you you can't manage things that's
what I mean by that that family Legacy
all of these are examples um can look
like someone struggling with ADHD in the
moment so let's do a hypothetical on
that credit card idea so you can see the
trauma survivor really get dis organized
and dissociate say about the credit card
thing being declined at a lunch or store
or whatever but then they stay in that
and then they become late for work
because they get consumed in it or
because they get reactive and then they
overly take several hours to go over
every piece of their finances to make
sure and now they're in a hyperfocused
place about it and they might go down
the rabbit hole of sorts after
confirming that the the simply the
credit card actually expired and they
actually had the money in there but
they're so triggered about the shame of
it that it takes over and I see going
down the rabbit hole as becoming
hypervigilant due to shame and yes a
credit card decline is difficult for
anyone or someone with ADHD but it
taking over throughout our days might be
a sign of something greater like
childhood trauma so that's what I mean
about trauma noise and yes it means that
you're triggered in the moment but the
noise is consistently there and now it's
just louder when we're acting ated so
let's briefly look at a v diagram from
that video I mentioned about comparing
ADHD to cptsd so here are the
traditional ADHD symptoms on the left
things like poor planning poor time
management task completion hyperactivity
or problems with hyperfocus and compared
to traditional cptsd symptoms on the
right we also have the majority of named
issues in the strong overlap of the vend
diagram with the main idea in those two
issues in mind mind heavily rooted in
something called Association I'll have
the link to this video description that
you guys can check out at the end so you
can just go check out what that video
was about I think we dissociate because
of the trauma noise where we lose being
present in the moment and the card thing
will automatically put us into a
disorganized activated brain and we lose
our groundedness we lose our goodness
about ourselves so we're still a good
person even though the credit card came
up and we lose a foundation and that's
how I C dissociation it's not just an
outof Body Experience so and I think
that all of these words and definitions
on the diagram are better explained in
someone's personal story instead of
Concepts such as the cptsd symptom of
say attachment problems I think it's
better explained by someone's story like
from that trauma noise slide about
having say a physically abusive mother
and an abandoning father who has
multiple Affairs that's the reason for
the attachment stuff not just the name
of it um this might become say an
avoidant attachment style in adulthood
the push pull style that can be confused
with ADHD symptoms around communication
or confusion about what the person might
really want from a relationship and such
attachment problems for example create a
lot of noise in our head from our lives
that affect our functioning and our
ability to be present in the way that we
would want to be you know raise your
hand out there if you've ever gotten
really reactive with someone that you
were dating with and kind of blew it
um did that come from like like a
nowhere place inside of you like it did
it come from a place that was on
automatic pilot that's pretty noisy
where the trauma is coming out sideways
as much as we try to maybe repress it or
simply that we're not aware of it and we
can we could also easily attribute that
to like the impulsivity or
trauma and cptsd because the symptoms
they they look very similar and these
are not numbered in order and many of
them will overlap they usually does um
and it's okay if you relate to all of
them and I'm just doing some of the
major ADHD symptoms and not all of them
just want to highlight what I mean when
I go through some so let's just dive
into it number one poor planning poor
follow through prioritization and
organization this is kind of a hodg
podge of of several ADHD symptoms here
so getting work projects done cleaning
up a room getting lost in it finishing a
paper on time or needing extensions
because of that or procrastinating right
up to the wire that's kind of actually
how I I I operate in sort of
procrastination it's not always a bad
thing it's just my process so take that
for what it is or even getting back to
people in text and emails sort of
drowning in a pile of basic living task
and overwhelm simply about stuff like
travel plans and it's totally toally in
line with the diagnosis of ADHD and if
the person doesn't have a trauma history
perfectly fine to just leave it at that
and seek treatment for ADHD but what if
all that pile up and overwhelm is due to
a person growing up and say neglect or
growing up in incredible shame around
say coming from a looks good on paper
family that lives for performance and
expectations or executing tasks and
you're scapegoated and failure to
measure up in that or if you grew up
something like the chaos family there's
really no parenting around getting it
together I often say that children
growing up in toxic systems um are
expected to be amazing in
self-sufficient little adults without
getting any help kids need a lot of help
if you're a parent now you probably get
that and what if the functioning in
disorganization is trauma noise rooted
in the core belief that you don't
measure up because that was verbatim
said to you and your inner child is just
acting accordingly with what your family
thought about you what if the and this
is a common one is part of it is not
being able to get out of your own way
with this kind of functioning because
you literally were never parented by a
safe person around organization or
showing up but you were expected to
Children of neglect live in anxiety and
overwhelm because life is all on them
that's a very important concept as young
as grammar school the child doesn't even
know that healthy parents consistently
help with living um and learning and
setting the child up for a success like
say a third grader um a healthy parent
would say remember we had that school
project with the diarama on nature this
week instead of parents not knowing
about it or caring or Worse reacting
that it comes up last minute um like the
kid should handle all that when that's
not how parenting really works at least
that's how I see it are the problems of
follow through really about being set up
by the parental figures about not being
prepared or engaged in life where in
extreme neglect we have really off
expectations this is where children
actually show signs of like grades
failing or acting out but they aren't
seen as signs to do something for the
child but they're rather seen as the
child's failings the inner child might
also be waiting still for someone to
show them how to live how to get their
credit score out of the red how to
donate clothes that they no longer wear
teaching to have like some flow in life
that's a deep version of noise um and it
can also look like protesting life
subconsciously so it's really important
like you're watching this video which is
an act of trying to get your adult in
place to take care of the inner child
overwhelm is the noise of like a hundred
thoughts usually going off in the
negative all at once pay attention to
the quality of those thoughts are they
about catastrophe are they about fear of
not knowing how to do something or doing
something well are they about feeling
like the basic thing that you need to do
is like insurmountable and you just
can't do it it are they about giving up
maybe due to grief and lastly many
clients become Frozen I want to make
sure I address this one around decisions
decision to making can really mess us up
simple decisions are big ones and I
think it's due from all the trauma noise
that I mentioned about what's going to
happen if I pull the trigger on this
decision number two is communication in
my mind communication is the biggest
manifestation of trauma noise that looks
like ADHD I find a major place of
discomfort for trauma surv is being seen
um talking on Zoom talking at a meeting
talking in class any hint of shame or
conflict that comes up socially um W
with people can really disregulated us
and feel like we're on the spot so
examples of being seen explaining
ourselves to say a new therapist um
being sung happy birthday to I know that
that sounds weird but you're the focus
having to present or discuss something
in class at work being introduced to new
people for for survivors this creates
anxiety and like frenetic energy that is
difficult to explain so what does this
look like it might look like tripping
over our words talking while filtering
way too much due to shame and not
wanting to offend somebody or come
across wrong maybe like our parents do
navigating The Listener way too much
losing our thoughts or our points
becoming super
tangential apologizing or navigating
someone as we go um it's the opposite of
being calm and comfortable and direct
cor you know and how could that actually
be trauma noise well abused children are
often put on the spot in fact we are we
only do this to children like look at me
when I'm talking to or I can't believe
that you would ask that right now and
how dare you say that about your father
or you always get things wrong you know
or spit it out for f sakes communicating
was often terrifying in the abusive
family system so there's going to be a
lot of noise in the present about how
the other person will see us how the
other person will react
um we also witness a lot of the adults
communicating in really off ways or
nasty ways and we don't want to be like
them um but we don't really have healthy
ideas or role models to go on so we're
just kind of winging it big thing with
trauma noise is also blurting things out
in some form of a truth we want to say
but it comes out in really insensitive
ways or really awkward ways and we were
probably actually raised like that and
the inner children are stuck in trying
to tell the truth but don't know how to
do it in healthy ways this can be
mislabeled as ADHD communication when it
might not be um are we interrupting a
conversation because of ADHD or is it
because we're doing that from trying to
control what other people think about us
due to shame um just like we had to do
with our parents or control people's
reactions could it be related to not
seeing healthy reciprocity in
conversations at home I had a boss one
time that constantly misread what I was
saying they would interrupt me and give
me like an airtight argument on
something totally unrelated to what I
was expressing it was kind of maddening
actually but I also knew that they grew
up in a very dominating got to win the
conversation family system like it's
like you're not going to shame me this
time and I'm going to prove it to you
why like that was their relational style
and navigating and filtering ourselves
can also be the noise of Shame as well
as the noise of a parent constantly
misunderstanding you or giving you
constantly like little quips these are
these are really gross when parents do
this it's like of course you want to
sleep over your friend's house cuz you
can't stand being at home I was never
like that when I was a kid why are you
that's what I mean by that so we try to
control and navigate that so if you find
yourself navigating others and losing
track like well well of course you don't
want tomatoes and you told me that a
long time ago I was just not thinking
I'm sorry but you have the right to
change your mind I'm I'm not like
imposing my will here about the tomatoes
though we we don't even have to have the
pasta we could do do anything you want
all of them is like I'm trying to cover
up a time bomb and we communicate in
weird weird ways because of that it's
kind of how I grew up as well moving on
to number three is impulsivity um
strongly related to number two about
communication this can range from a busy
internal motor to rushing through things
interrupting others in conversation
misinterpreting someone and reacting to
your own narrative um not having
reciprocity like I mentioned in
conversation
fidgeting this can also look like kind
of being in an attention seeking mode
like you're acting like a bit of a court
gesture impulsively it can also look
like acting without thinking like you're
at a party and you all of a sudden you
decide to start cleaning up during kind
of a chill time because you don't know
what else to do with yourself you're
acting without thinking or not thinking
of consequences like say calling in sick
too many times and being detached from
my what what might happen because of
that or how it that might come across
and again and if you don't have a trauma
history all of these can definitely just
fall under ADHD and either way though
these result in us not really feeling
good about ourselves or how we conduct
it like you leave the party and you're
like why was I cleaning you know um this
can even look like misreading
suggestions and misreading them as
commands or demands like your partner is
asking to do something together but
you're busy and you become like angry or
pressured internally that's impulsively
reacting to a suggestion or missing the
point where like you actually can sort
of say no or reschedule or engage better
with them or worse you you know not to
take the outing and and overstress
yourself and trying to do both work and
the outing at the same time and you act
out from that so how could all that be
potential trauma noise well remember the
disassociative part of that overlapping
vend diagram that can mean being out of
our bodies but it can also mean being
really unconscious and not grounded in
ourselves and we react instead of
respond it can also mean being impulsive
like the squeaky wheel in class seeking
attention it can mean being a bit
self-involved and not seeing the other
person in a conversation it can mean
making on the spot poor decisions like
cracking a joke or making a reference
that only you'll get then feeling bad
when it doesn't land these are all
things we can kind of feel shame about
or even leave a class or conversation
being worried if you monopolized the
conversation but didn't intend to like
it was automatic how could that be
related to Childhood trauma well growing
up in neglect or a super tense
environment where things weren't modeled
in healthy ways or the mirroring was
really off many survivors um grow up in
what I call kind of vacuums and they
don't know how they come across to
others we're also the last to know if
we're reactive or impulsive kind of
relationally so raise your hand if you
feel like you didn't get the handbook in
life on how to be social as a kid or it
started there and you kept making
awkward attempts this feels like you're
kind of shooting in the dark but yet
intuiting it's going to fail anyway but
yet you still do it like think Ralph
wigam from The Simpsons kind of a Vibe
and sure you can look at that as simply
Being Human and trying to engage but it
can come from being really neglected or
say you were raised in a really hyper
religious household and when you go to
school you'd have to guess and guess
wrong coming back to Ralph Wiggum from
The Simpsons like his father was the
police officer and it's just like he was
pretty critical of him or just kind of
almost a little bit like passively
disgusted with his kid and I think that
that like made his made Ralph wigam
worse the psychology of of Ralph wigam
so my family growing up was super
negative with each other and we were
sarcastic at Baseline so with with
friends at work I'd make some really big
impulsive negative faux PA and would
create like a a big loud record scratch
in the room and that was me sitting on
all the noise about how my family
treated each other and what was modeled
for me and I was acting out from that
template and in turn creating more
tension in the present for myself I
tried really hard to be normal probably
like a lot of you but the impulsive
negative things I would say was my
trauma noise coming out sideways and my
family connected around misery and I
would impulsively do the same thing with
others and they'd be like whoa whoa know
you okay buddy and I would impulsively
take my my family's kind of Debbie
Downer Vibes into the wrong places
creating awkwardness creating
impulsivity I'd also make rash impulsive
decisions that the person I was dating
was no longer a good person when that
probably wasn't true or jobs like I
moved through a lot of restaurant jobs
for feeling super offended and I would
abruptly decide to leave was that just
general ADHD or was that childhood
trauma noise as impul pulsive self-
protection or magical thinking that
would often come up at the slightest
feeling of being disrespected um we can
be incredibly impulsive when we feel
like things are personal and Trauma the
thing about trauma noise is that growing
up it was very personal um but we now
have a noisy sensitivity to it lastly I
haven't met a trauma Survivor yet that
wasn't either hypo internal motored or
hyper internal motored fidgeting rushing
not comfortable with rest at all and
impulsively keeping busy or
distracted um that's usually in like a
Norm from our clients or they're
massively shut down and sort of the
opposite of that it's almost the same
thing we're sitting on a lot and perhaps
the busyness is an attempt to not feel
The Well of trauma emotions such as
shame or not good enough in the
subconscious noise about what are
abusive family did to us as children
moving on to number four is low
frustration tolerance related to
impulsivity low frustration tolerance is
really hard and it's hard to live in um
if not related to Childhood trauma
history low frustration tolerance can
definitely be a part of ADHD it can come
from lack of not being able to focus or
being hyperfocused on one thing and
neglecting others or being pulled away
from something that's actually enjoyable
can be related to a a cumulative
exhaustion and struggling or trying to
just get through something as simple as
the morning time um it can be for of
sleep personal Shame about other ADHD
symptoms and now manifesting in some
kind of FY life kind of vibe ADHD is
brutal to navigate and deal with without
help how could that maybe be related to
the childhood trauma piece or the
childhood trauma noise we could be
raised with parents with low frustration
tolerance raise your hand out there if
your parents can't handle things like
traffic or disagreements or or
directions um or who who grew up in an
angry unhappy household and the modeling
is like this is our lot in life did your
parents take things personally and
that's what was modeled chances are with
toxic family systems like I said it was
always personal which greatly lowers our
risk for frustration um or lowers our
tolerance FR for frustration there's
often a reserve of very valid rage about
what took place in our childhoods but it
doesn't belong in the present and that
noise can manifest with speaking say to
the cable company or dealing with a Bure
bureaucracy in some way and of course
dealing with the cable Company is
frustrating to everyone but does it hit
kind of a rage button in you about being
manipulated about being marginalized
about things being massively unfair that
it being only beneficial to one side of
the party um the cable company did the
family that you grew up in have special
rules or did they keep moving the goal
line on you was the family you grew up
and extremely unfair and lacked any
sense of balance or Justice it can
really come from just constantly being
dismissed or put into unsafe situations
or in my case um constantly being made
to jump through hoops at the start of my
trauma treatment saying I had low
frustration tolerance was generous I
felt like filling out forms or
multi-step processes like applying for
college were unnecessary gatekeeping to
me like we can often feel like the world
is purposely making things harder on us
and I'm not saying the world doesn't do
that to us at times but I was completely
unaware that my rage was coming from
that my abusive father did a lot of that
kind of thing to us making us jump
through hoops growing up for us to get
our basic needs met he would make you
work for it as a way to look Superior to
you and have control over you if I
needed lunch money or a permission slip
signed and my mother wasn't around I
would have to go through the ordeal um
that was him and then he'd act like he
did you a favor by signing the slip or
giving little mess you know raise your
hand out there if you relate to that um
the trauma noise itself is sitting on
all that happened to us can make us very
negative and easily frustrated it's also
hard to see others kind of like glide
through life when it feels like you have
to work four times as hard to get to the
same place that they do I think I felt a
lot of that growing up my frustration
tolerance was also wrapped up in a
trauma narrative around the noise of
fairness I felt like others had it much
easier which made me act out in a bit
kind of like secretly entitled way that
was also modeled for me by my parents
they were like that as well um my mother
would feel like she had the world
against her if we got to a store right
at closing and she'd act like the world
did that to her on purpose without
seeing that it was more about her
disorganization or her drinking or her
poor planning um than it was about the
store making special rules or something
cuz the hours were clearly outlined on
the store door um and she would never
take that in so low frustration
tolerance as trauma noise can also be
rooted in feeling like you're just
treading water in Life or you're doing
your best to seem normal as you can and
something pushes you under or something
imp like impulsive happens and others
point out to you that you don't have it
as together as you try to seem like you
do like say at work you're already
emotionally taxed at Baseline and then
they want to do a meeting with you or do
a performance review and the noise at
Baseline makes life harder and now
something more is being piled on and I'm
not just counting the job could be toxic
or unrealistic expectations like that's
not the point or I often have clients
get deeply triggered this is really
specific when their trauma pops up
despite the fact that they put most of
their energy into doing the best that
they can and it feels like the world is
saying that your survival strategy isn't
good enough it can really piss you off
because just like our families the noise
is about us feeling or saying to our
boss or to our partner like we would
Express to them when this comes up like
you have no idea the energy that I put
into just making it and now you want to
have a meeting with me so that's what I
mean about low frustration but that Vibe
really isn't good for us it's a bit it's
really kind of a self-righteous Vibe and
it's still noise of growing up without a
safe home base to be just human um and
the noise of having to make it on our
own as children without any help that's
where that you have no idea stuff comes
from it's not so much about the present
but again that noise comes out sideways
and you find yourself might you might
find yourself breaking down or having
really hit a Tipping Point in those kind
of situations and our frustration is
through the roof so last thought on low
frustration tolerance is many trauma
survivors live in conditioned upset or
even have an addiction to upset as a way
to confirm that nothing works in the
present it's odd but we can actually get
a little bit of a hit from being really
really pissed off or self-righteous or
going to that F my life kind kind of a
place and again I'm not trying to blame
the Survivor a lot of that stuff is
modeled for us but in a way if you live
an upset just be curious about that
curious about does any part of it almost
do you get something out of it so take
that for what it is so what to do with
all this I think getting treatment for
ADHD symptoms is going to be helpful
either way I think trauma or ADHD but if
you relate to this idea of trauma noise
that we're sitting on conscious or not I
think processing our childhood trauma is
going to help if you want that with
lessening the noise and coming back to
our bodies to live presently in a less
disorganized and reactive way and I'd
recommend a bunch of stuff the most
acceptable treatment being EMDR which
helps I think it helps create space for
new beliefs and hopefully processing the
old noise um I've done it myself it's
very very helpful really really good I
was but in another way earlier I was
able to drain most of my trauma Noise by
going to a trauma group where we did
intimacy work rage work finishing
business with our families holding them
accountable metaphorically not in person
doing empty chair work experiential work
and doing that with others who were on
the same path and that they were safe
finding all that I know is incredibly
hard and I'm just saying that's how I
did it but there are some therapies out
there that can help help you shift out
of the noise and become a little bit
more but just make sure that it's trauma
Focus work with the traum focused
therapist and I can definitely do a
whole video on that uh at a at a
different time lastly trauma noise is
there for good reason it's like an
intense unfinished movie that you never
got closure on and it's there in the
background sort of asking to be
addressed if you choose to um it can
simply be the grief and loss of family
normaly or not being connected with your
family my experience was once I process
and did deeper work um like I mentioned
with meditation earlier those chap in my
life got resolved got closed and it
didn't come up intense moments or
randomly anymore here's an exercise
though that I can offer that you can do
about some looking at some personal
examples of the trauma noise you
experience it's kind of a list exercise
you create three columns for three
separate lifts um the first is systemic
trauma noise this is hard to come up
with but you can refer to something like
my seven types of toxic family systems
by systemic I mean how your family
system operated things like aggressor
codependent triangulation looks good on
paper Superior inferior relationships or
parental attitudes passive aggression
religion before reality protect the most
abusive person all of that stuff is like
you know system issues and here I've
given three examples of systemic issues
like the toxic divorce with the ships in
the night thing poor parental boundaries
and filter and say something like basic
as how the family communicates ated next
is you you draw a correlation to some
concrete memories I would actually start
here and then work from the left column
to the right and notice how each item is
related to each other from left to right
concrete memories is the stuff that
keeps coming up for you or things that
stick out in your mind like that time on
vacation where Mom lost it Christmas 97
stuff that was said to you these were
actually Clues at the time that you
remember but they were clues about that
you actually weren't safe and it had
gone off the rails the last column is
relating your present trauma noise it's
like your triggers it can be anything
that you get disregulated around
feedback that you worry your partner
will leave or is cheating and that you
overshare or you OV explain and the
exercise is about connecting the dots
the noise is there for good reasons and
it's not what you would have chosen if
given the choice if you get stuck in one
column try starting with another and
almost work with it like a crossword
puzzle see if that helps making your
trauma noise clearer it's not going to
make it go away but for you to be on top
of it and know where it's coming from is
a step to eventually making a going way
this requires some thinking and you can
use my videos to research or look for
other Concepts um through the videos I
recently put together a playlist that
has like a succession of all these
videos and you can check that out too so
I hope this very long video was helpful
to you um you can go check out the
original video on ADHD versus cptsd to
to check that out and use that for a
reference as well you can also go
through a list of there's a video on
journaling prompts that might get you to
think about this stuff or get to know
your triggers they all have a general
theme to them about exploring childhood
that's in a playlist that I've recently
created I'll also have that in the link
in the description and I hope it was
helpful to you um I would love to hear
your thoughts on trauma noise what you
think about it I would love to hear
questions in the comments and as always
may you be filled with loving kindness
may you be well may you be peaceful and
at ease and may you be joyous and I will
see you next
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