Dr Joe Dispenza: 93% Of People MANIFEST The Wrong Way (Here’s How To Fix It)

Nobody changes until they change their energy. And when you change your energy,

energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life. And when you're truly focused and you're truly paying attention and you're in the present moment, all of a sudden, you will leave this three-dimensional reality. And when

you leave this three-dimensional reality, there's only one other place you go, and that is the realm of thought, and that's called the quantum field. The voice behind a movement that

field. The voice behind a movement that blends science and spirit in a way that's both real and revolutionary.

>> Please give a warm welcome to Dr. Joe Despensza. The latest research on genes

Despensza. The latest research on genes says genes don't create disease. It's

the environment that signals the gene that creates disease.

>> The emotional environment or the physical environment.

>> Your environment. Thoughts are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body. And how you think and how you feel creates your state of being. Those chemicals give the brain and body a rush of energy. And

people become addicted to that rush of energy. So now they use the problems and

energy. So now they use the problems and conditions in their life to reaffirm their addiction to that emotion. They

need the bad job. You got to lay down the very thing you used your whole life to get what you want for something greater to occur.

>> Now, you've been working with teaching people how to heal themselves with their minds, right? Overcome disease, overcome

minds, right? Overcome disease, overcome any type of chronic illness or pain >> through the mind, the principle of the mind.

>> I grew up in a religion called Christian Science >> that did not use medicine. I didn't get vaccinations when I was a kid. My dad

wouldn't let me go to the hospital. He

wanted to use thought, prayer, >> the mindset to overcome any pain or any physical ailment.

>> And so this something I was learning in a different way as an early kid.

>> When did you start to learn about this philosophy or principle or truth and start applying it to your life?

>> Well, I got run over by a truck in a triathlon in 1986 on the biking portion of the race. I broke uh six vertebrae in my spine and I was told that I'd never walk again. And uh so the typical uh

walk again. And uh so the typical uh surgical procedure for multiple compression fractures with uh cord impingement is uh this uh surgery called Harrington rod surgery. And in my case,

they were going to cut off the backs of parts of my vertebrae from the base of my neck to the base of my spine. And

then they screw in these long stainless steel rods. And when you screw those

steel rods. And when you screw those rods in into the vertebrae, acts like can lever. lifts the spinal column off

can lever. lifts the spinal column off the court.

>> Uh but the prognosis was I probably wouldn't walk again and um and that the surgery was was hopeful that it would give me some relief and and uh I think if it was any other patient Lewis

besides me, I probably would have recommended the surgery, but this was me, you know.

>> Sure.

>> And I just couldn't rush into it. So I

had four opinions, you know, from four of the leading surgeons in Southern California, and they were adamant that I needed this. All four of them. All four

needed this. All four of them. All four

of them. Yeah. In fact, the the medical director of Scripps Hospital at the time was my was my surgeon and he was he thought I had a head injury or he thought, you know, that I had PTSD that

I wasn't just following his instruction.

Anyway, I decided against the surgery and I thought, well, listen, I'm not going anywhere. I'm not doing anything.

going anywhere. I'm not doing anything.

I'm basically laying face down. And I

thought, well, there's an intelligence that's giving us life that's keeping our heart beating and digesting our food. It

it it really knows how to heal way better than me. this innate intelligence is what's giving us life. And I thought, well, if it's an intelligence, it's it's a consciousness. And consciousness is

a consciousness. And consciousness is awareness, and awareness is paying attention. So, it must be paying

attention. So, it must be paying attention to me. So, I said, look, maybe I'll just spend the rest of my time trying to connect to this intelligence and give it a plan, give it a design,

give it a template. And when I was really present and complete with that design, I would surrender this creation to this greater mind and allow it to do the healing for me. And the other thing I said is I'm not going to let any

thought slip by my awareness that I don't want to experience. Now, that

sounds really easy, right? But but when you're faced with crisis or trauma, uh we tend to focus on what we don't want to have happen instead of what we do have want to have happen. So, I started

on this journey. I decided against the surgery and um it was a a big revolution at the time. And uh I went through six and a half weeks of hell. I just could not get my mind to do what I wanted it

to do cuz I'd start reconstructing my vertebrae and imaging an outcome and then I'd start thinking I'm going to be living in a wheelchair. I sell my practice.

>> So you were thinking about the way you wanted your body to look and feel in your mind.

>> I I reconstructed every single Yeah. In

my mind. I wanted to show it exactly threedimensionally.

>> In your mind. In my mind. You're not

drawing it out or >> No. No. In my mind I was reconstructing.

>> No. No. In my mind I was reconstructing.

>> You're visualizing.

>> Yeah. Visualizing. And I wanted to say, "Look, take a look at that because this intelligence is always present, right?

So, we got to be present with it. So,

I'd start off reconstructing my spine and then I'd be like, "Oh gosh, um, should I sell my practice? What if I live in a wheelchair?"

>> You practice a chiropractic assistance.

>> Yeah. In in the Southern California, La Hoya.

>> So, uh, I couldn't get my mind to do what I wanted to do. And then after 6 weeks, I just went through the whole thing. I felt like I hit a golf ball

thing. I felt like I hit a golf ball right in the sweet spot. Something

clicked. And from that point forward, what took me two and a half or three hours to do, I was able to do in 45 minutes. I was firing and wiring, you

minutes. I was firing and wiring, you know, these new circuits. And I was practicing paying attention. And then

all of a sudden, I started noticing dramatic changes in my health like this.

And the moment I started noticing changes in my body, what was going on outside of me, I started correlating at what I was doing inside of me, now I was just hooked. And I just started doing it

just hooked. And I just started doing it with more passion and more sincerity.

Anyway, back on my feet in 10 and a half weeks, back training at 12 weeks, back in my clinic. And um and I just made a deal with myself that if I was ever able to walk again, I'd spend the rest of my life studying the mind body connection

and mind over matter. And then that led me to >> just stop everything in my life. I just

wasn't the same guy. I'd just been initiated into something and sold my practice, sold my home, >> sold it all.

>> Sold it all. Moved to the Northwest. And

I just started asking bigger questions like who am I? What is why am I here?

What what are we doing? What happens

when we die? And how did how did all this happen for me? what was the process? I started studying the the

process? I started studying the the science behind it and I couldn't find it in any conventional textbooks because this was unconventional, right? And

miraculous is kind of unconventional. So

I started studying quantum physics and neuroscience and epigenetics and it started making sense. I started building this model of understanding. Then I

asked the fundamental question, has anybody else done it? So then I traveled to 17 different countries and interviewed hundreds and hundreds of people with uh serious health conditions

that were treating either conventionally or unconventionally. They were staying

or unconventionally. They were staying the same or getting worse and all of a sudden I got better. So what was the cause that produced the effect you know and the stories and what I learned was

so amazing. I went back to school and

so amazing. I went back to school and studied neuroscience because mind was such a strong element. It wasn't diet.

It wasn't celibacy. It wasn't any of those things. It was just really this

those things. It was just really this element. And so then I was able to

element. And so then I was able to figure out that there were four common things.

>> And then I wrote a book about it. And

then I thought, God, if this works really on people that were sick and better and they come from all walks of life, all colors, all races, all genders, sexual preferences, but all of

a sudden I wanted to see if I was able to reproduce it. So then I started seeing okay let's see if we can teach this >> be able to reproduce the outcome because that's science right so I went through

about >> what were the four common things >> uh the first one was that there they all believed and accepted that there was an intelligence that lived within them that was giving them life and >> these people you interviewed who had had

injuries that overcame >> no no these were people were with cancer MS lupus Parkinson's disease >> who got better >> yeah just spontaneously and it's called a spontaneous >> remission so they believe there was an

intelligence.

>> There was some invisible life force that was they were connected to that they felt like they had lost their connection to they became separate and disconnected from and that when they got the

diagnosis they woke up and said man I got to connect again and I got to connect to my essence. Uh and so they developed a relationship with it just like you develop a relationship with anybody. It takes time. You got to be

anybody. It takes time. You got to be present. You got to connect. You got to

present. You got to connect. You got to experience. You got to be present. All

experience. You got to be present. All

of these things are important elements.

So, so that was the first thing. Um, the

second thing was that they realized that it was the mismanagement of their emotions and the hormones of stress that really began to create their condition.

Now, now stress is when your brain and body are knocked out of balance. Stress

is when your body's knocked out of homeostasis. We have an innate mechanism

homeostasis. We have an innate mechanism in our body that returns us back to order. So then if you're someone cuts

order. So then if you're someone cuts you off on the LA freeway, you have a emotional reaction, but 15 minutes later you're back to driving and you're over it, right? That's all organisms in

it, right? That's all organisms in nature can tolerate short-term stress, right?

>> But when it's all day long, all week, all year.

>> Yeah. So if you're reacting to like if Tyrannosaurus Rex is chasing you, uh you have to make a decision. Am I going to use 20% of my energy? I'm going to use 100%. So turns out when you're reacting

100%. So turns out when you're reacting to traffic, >> 200%.

>> All right. after reacting to your coworker sitting in the cubicle next to you, >> you're you're turning on that response and what was once very adaptive becomes very maladaptive. Cuz when you turn on

very maladaptive. Cuz when you turn on the stress response and you can't turn it off, now you're headed for disease cuz nobody can live in emergency mode for that extended period of time. Well,

human beings, we can turn on the stress response just by thought alone. You can

think about your problems and you're producing the same biological effects.

So those chemicals give the brain and body a rush of energy and people become addicted to that rush of energy. So now they use the problems

of energy. So now they use the problems and conditions in their life to reaffirm their addiction to that emotion. They

need the bad job. They need the poor relationship. So that means they become

relationship. So that means they become addicted to the life that they don't even like.

>> Why do we why do we need the bad job or bad relationship and stay stuck in >> because it's a conditioned response. So

listen, if you get angry at a coworker and all of a sudden you get an arousal in your brain and body, right? You get a rush of energy. When you start noticing that your body starts dropping, your

brain starts noticing your energy starts dropping, you're automatically going to have the image of the coworker in order to what? Give your body the the next the

to what? Give your body the the next the jolt, right? So all of a sudden people

jolt, right? So all of a sudden people become addicted to their own thoughts, right? So these people realize that oh

right? So these people realize that oh my god um I I I've been mismanaging my attention and energy and I got to I got to get beyond my past. I got to get beyond these emotions. I got to make

some big changes. I got to break the habit of being myself. You know I got to stop being this person. Now that sounds really good theoretically and philosophically but change is such a

hard thing. All right? Because the

hard thing. All right? Because the

moment you come back to your senses and you step back into your life and you see that person or you go to that place or you're with that uh experience, so many

people are unconsciously reacting in their thoughts and feelings to everything in their environment. So now

their environment is controlling how they think and feel. So they realize that in order to change to change the environment, >> they got to be greater than their environment, greater than the conditions in the world, greater than the circumstances. Be mindful of that every

circumstances. Be mindful of that every time a tough to be like, "Okay, I'm going to think differently. I'm not

going to react >> right. I'm not going to go back. I'm not

>> right. I'm not going to go back. I'm not

going to go back." Because the moment you start reacting emotionally, emotions are a record of the past. And if those emotions are driving your thoughts, you're thinking in the past. And if you

can't think greater than how you feel and you believe your thoughts have something to do with your destiny, you're creating more of your past.

Right? So it turns out that the repetition of thinking and feeling and feeling and thinking these loops that people get caught in condition their body to subconsciously become the mind

of that emotion. Which means now their body is their unconscious mind is believing they're living in the same past experience 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. What's the

relevance behind that? Well, the latest research on genes says genes don't create disease. It's the environment

create disease. It's the environment that signals the gene that creates disease. the emotional environment or

disease. the emotional environment or the physical environment.

>> Your environment, any environmental reaction, but if you're reacting emotionally to your environment the same way, you're signaling the same gene in the same way and now you're headed for a

genetic destiny. So, the hormones of

genetic destiny. So, the hormones of stress push the genetic buttons that create disease. If you can turn on the

create disease. If you can turn on the stress response just by thought alone, your thoughts can make you sick. And if

your thoughts can make you sick, is it possible that your thoughts can make you well? So they began to realize that, oh

well? So they began to realize that, oh my god, >> the repetition of thinking and feeling and feeling and thinking caused me to feel guilt and I don't even know it's guilt. It just feels like me. It's just

guilt. It just feels like me. It's just

I'm used to the same chemical continuity. Now the moment they decided

continuity. Now the moment they decided to change, anytime you decide to change and change anything about yourself, get ready cuz it's going to feel uncomfortable.

>> You're going to leave the gnome. Yeah.

>> You're going to leave the familiar and you're going to step into the unknown.

>> Even if the familiar is uncomfortable and painful, >> right?

>> It's still going to be painful leaving the pain, >> right? Cuz some people are super happy

>> right? Cuz some people are super happy being unhappy, >> right?

>> So then they would rather cling to their suffering than take a chance in possibility. So these people said,

possibility. So these people said, >> I really have nothing to lose, right?

>> So then they said, I'm willing to be uncomfortable and be in the unknown. And

it turns out that's the perfect place to create from.

>> So when the body is conditioned to become the mind, then to change is to be greater than the body, right? Because

>> how do we become greater than the body?

>> Well, that's a whole another conversation. But let me finish this.

conversation. But let me finish this.

Okay. So the third thing they said was okay. So now that I know that I got to

okay. So now that I know that I got to break the habit of being myself and I can't mismanage my thoughts and feelings. I got to change how I act. I

feelings. I got to change how I act. I

got to watch how I speak. I got to become conscious of how unconscious I am because 95% of who we are by the time we're 35 years old is a set of memorized

behaviors like a computer program.

Emotional reactions, unconscious beliefs and perceptions. So the first step to

and perceptions. So the first step to change is to become conscious of how you think, to notice how you act, to pay attention to how you feel. And the act of observing those states of mind and

body separates you from that program.

Now you're you're you're the consciousness observing that program. It

turns out the more conscious you become of how unconscious you are, you know, lighting a match in a dark place, that first step creates enormous amounts of chaos in the brain and body. And it's

disturbing. So people just go back to the same addiction, the same emotion, the same problem. This feels better. No,

that feels familiar. So they said, "Okay, now I got to change.

>> I got to reinvent myself." Now this is really important because they started sitting down and thinking, "Okay, who in history do I admire? Who are great people, role models that I could follow?

What are the qualities and characteristics that they have? How am I going to change?" You know, these are what we call frontal lobe questions. The

creative center of the brain switches on. the emotional center settles down.

on. the emotional center settles down.

So then they started thinking, how would I have to be in a new life if I was really going to heal? What would I have to change about myself? Now there's this interesting phenomenon that if you close

your eyes and you begin to think about doing something, you're an athlete, you understand this. If you're a background

understand this. If you're a background in football and you were running a pattern or you were doing something, you would rehearse it in your mind. Turns

out that the act of mentally rehearsing something when you're truly present, your brain does not know the difference between what's going on out there and what's going on in here. In fact, your

brain will begin to look like you've been doing it for the last 5 days and you've never run the course.

>> So now your brain is no longer a record of the past because typically it is. Now

it's a map to the future. So now you're priming your brain. So that became the very platform. you know, experiments

very platform. you know, experiments with piano players. You know, you take a group of people that never played the piano before. You divide them into two

piano before. You divide them into two different categories. You take one group

different categories. You take one group of people, you teach them one-handed scales and chords. You do a brain scan on them. They come and practice for 2

on them. They come and practice for 2 hours a day for 5 days. At the end of five days, if you rescan the brain, they grow new circuits on the opposite side of the brain. Nothing magical there. You

learn something new. Learning is making new connections. Get some instruction.

new connections. Get some instruction.

You get instruction. You get your body involved. Get your body involved. You're

involved. Get your body involved. You're

gonna have an experience. This

experience enriches the brain. Pay

attention to what you're doing. You got

to pay attention and repeat it. Firing

and wiring. You're going to assemble new circuits. You can take the other group

circuits. You can take the other group of people, have them come for two hours a day for 5 days. Do a brain scan before, the brain scan after. Have them

close their eyes and mentally rehearse playing those scales and chords. At the

end of five days, they'll grow the same amount of circuits in their brain as the people who actually physically demonstrated the action. What does that mean? That means not only they change

mean? That means not only they change their brain by thinking differently, but their brain looks like they've been playing the piano for 5 days. Now, set

them in front of a piano, never played the piano before. They'll play those scales and chords because their brain is wired to play it. So, now the act of rehearsing who they're going to be, what

are the qualities, and beginning to get in this creative state began to lay down the circuits of a new personality. And a

new personality is connected to a new personal reality. So, the next question

personal reality. So, the next question is, does that change the body? Take a

group of men, have them do one-handed um curls in their mind and bring an emotional component like stronger, harder, more intense, one hour a day for

two weeks. At the end of two weeks, 13.5

two weeks. At the end of two weeks, 13.5 increase in muscle strength. Wow. Never

lifted a weight. Now, their body is changing by thought alone. So these

people began to reprogram their brain and body and all of a sudden they began to act differently. Why? Because they

installed the circuits. They began to think differently, of course. They began

to feel differently. They they were no longer feeling pain. They're actually

liking themselves, right? So that if they're living by a different emotion and they're they're feeling an elevated emotion before their healing before they were healed. They're not waiting for

were healed. They're not waiting for their healing to feel joy and gratitude.

They're feeling gratitude and joy. Now,

their body is believing that it's healed because the body's feeling the emotion ahead of the experience. And if the environment signals the gene and the end product of an experience in the environment is emotion, you're signaling the gene ahead of the environment. And

what do genes do? Genes make proteins.

And what are proteins responsible? The

structure and function of the body. Now,

you're literally becoming somebody else.

And now you're turning down the genes for disease and you're turning up these other genes. So I started to realize

other genes. So I started to realize that this reinvention process is exactly what we've always done. It's just that we get complacent in certain areas of our life and we stop. Now the last thing

they had in common, the fourth thing is that when they were doing that rehearsal process that they had long moments where they lost track of time and space. In

other words, they were so involved in their inner world >> of imaging >> that when they turn the light on the room or they lift their blindfold up or whatever they were doing, they thought

it was 20 minutes later and it was an hour and 20 minutes later.

>> And when you're truly focused and you're truly paying attention and you're in the present moment, all of a sudden you will leave this three-dimensional reality.

And when you leave this three-dimensional reality, there's only one other place you go and that is the realm of thought. And that's called the quantum field. And that quantum field is

quantum field. And that quantum field is where all possibilities exist. Right? So

they were connecting to a field of information that had everything to do with the first principle which is that invisible intelligence that's both within us and all around us, personal

and universal. It is it is the unifying

and universal. It is it is the unifying field that governs everything material in this world. And if you're going to change something material, >> that means you got to get beyond your body to heal your body, >> right? Because if you're your body

>> right? Because if you're your body trying to heal your body, there's one thing that we can guarantee. It's going

to take time. It's going to just take a long time because you're playing by the rules of Newtonian physics. You play by the rules of quantum physics. Energy

dictates matter.

>> So when you're truly in the field and you're making changes there, then the downward cascade neurologically, biologically chemically hormonally genetically is the side effect of what's doing what's happening in the field.

>> Accelerates. It

>> accelerates it. Exactly. So you you do it in less time because you're more connected to a realm that doesn't play by time.

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You know, growing up in this religion that I grew up, >> it was a constant reminder, daily practice to think in a certain way, to think that you can never be physically

harmed, that your infinite love, that your infinite light, your infinite soul, spirit, life, truth, and love. Right? It

was a constantly >> taught to me that I'm that I'm never able to get physically harmed.

>> And that if you are, that means your thought is off and you just have to recorrect your thought and you'll have a healing.

>> Right.

It's a little extreme for some because and if you're not, you know, well practiced in it, if you don't know how to really manage the thoughts and train, then you can hurt yourself.

>> Yeah. Exactly.

>> You can really hurt your body and that's, you know, it happened. It

happened for times.

>> Um, but I use this, you know, philosophy, strategy, technique, idea in sports and I would rehearse constantly, like you talked about. I was constantly

rehearsing the games, what I wanted to create for the season, for my my body, for my life.

>> Mhm.

>> And it's it just seemed like it would always happen. You know, I would

always happen. You know, I would rehearse constantly over and over and get lost in my thoughts. You called the quantum field. Is that what you called

quantum field. Is that what you called it?

>> So, I was in the quantum field to be on the physical field. I was playing in the quantum field just like I'd be playing on the physical field.

>> Exactly. And I remember I would watch um game film of world record holders in track and field and football and watch them every single night and mentally

rehearse the same movements they would have before I would fall asleep and then I would practice the next day.

But I was constantly rehearsing in my mind how I wanted to show up. I was

rehearsing this moment.

>> Mhm.

>> You know in my life 10 years ago I was rehearsing what I've been doing this year in my life.

Do you do this on a daily practice for yourself? And if so, how does that

yourself? And if so, how does that rehearsal look like?

>> I do. I do. Um, so, so two things I wanted to say about that. I mean, first of all, >> this is really not for everybody. I

mean, because it's a you got to be, it's like pregnancy. Either you are or you're

like pregnancy. Either you are or you're not. I mean, I mean, there's no in

not. I mean, I mean, there's no in between.

>> A little pregnant.

>> You can't be kind of a little pregnant.

Either you are, you're not. And so, so you can't >> Who is it for and who's it not for?

>> Yeah. So, so we what I found is that what I started studying spontaneous remissions, it was for people who had reached the end of their emotional belief where there was no longer any

answers. They had the doctors gave up on

answers. They had the doctors gave up on nothing else to do, right? And so they changed everything about themselves. And

some of them were physicians, you know, it's just going like, "Wow, what have I what have I been doing?" But now fast forward to today, I mean, in an age of information, ignorance is a choice. I

mean, >> you got so much information. You don't

need a doctor. You don't need a teacher.

You don't need a priest or a minister to gain information. You don't need an

gain information. You don't need an authority, right? You can technology

authority, right? You can technology gives us the very quick information. So

now people are informed. 20 years ago, doctor said, "Do you have this health condition?" Yeah. And not only that, you

condition?" Yeah. And not only that, you sign on the dotted line, you got the treatment of the surgery. Fast forward

to today, everybody just kind of goes, "Wait a second.

>> Multiple opinions. Let me get this.

>> Let me You go home and you research it and you say, "I want to try this." So

now all of a sudden, people are taking their power back. So, so people are more informed. So, surgical procedures,

informed. So, surgical procedures, pharmaceuticals are not always the first choice for people because there's other ways and people only do the best with what's available. So now information has

what's available. So now information has scaled and changed the way people face off with health conditions and now people are coming uh into this uh number one if they have a health condition that

they can self-correct and number two there are people that are saying if I'm headed for a genetic destiny because my mother had this health condition my father had this and I know the gene doesn't create it but how I act and how

I feel is going to signal the same gene well I'm going to just change my genetic future so now people are super proactive in the process Right. So that's point number one. But point number two is that

number one. But point number two is that if you if you start realizing that this is actually possible and and I can tell you that without a doubt it is because we were talking before we started the

things that I'm witnessing. I mean in the beginning it was just like a person got a little better. They felt a little this little that you know their food allergies went away. But then all of a sudden we're talking about we in our

last event two people with stage four cancer completely reversed. Wow. uh a

woman with a very serious neurological disorder. They didn't even they couldn't

disorder. They didn't even they couldn't even name it. Crutches, the whole bit, left the event, no crutches. Well, how

did she do that?

>> Well, let me ask you a question. If she

doesn't look like a movie star and she's not buffed and young and attractive and successful, she looks like a normal person. And you listen to this person's

person. And you listen to this person's story and there's a thousand people listening to that story, you're going to scratch your head and say, "Wow, if she can do it, so can I." Mhm.

>> And just like you know an infection spreads amongst a community that creates disease, health and wellness can be as infectious as disease. So do I use it?

Yes. But not in the way that people think. Like

think. Like >> I I don't I I'm not interested in success. I've had it. I know that that's

success. I've had it. I know that that's an important element. I think success is a side effect of who you are.

>> But what am I after?

>> I'm after making a difference in the world. I want people to become

world. I want people to become empowered. So my rehearsals, my

empowered. So my rehearsals, my meditations and connecting are all about the next thing that we can push the envelope for. In other words, if that

envelope for. In other words, if that person healed themselves of that health condition and this person healed themselves, is it possible for that person to heal another person? And if

they can heal that other person, which is now happening, is it possible to heal somebody on the other side of the planet? You just have to build the model

planet? You just have to build the model and then come up with the science to be able to piece it together. And science

turns out is the language they help to demystify that process. So I now know without a doubt if you give people sound scientific information. And every time

scientific information. And every time they learn something new, they're adding new connections in their brain. That's

what learning is.

>> Wow.

>> And if they can begin to pay attention for just one hour now, they're causing jungles of neurons to begin to organize as a platform of understanding. If I say to you now turn to the person next to

you and explain what I said and we do this in our events. If you can turn to the person next to you and explain what you said, you've wired it in your brain.

What's the relevance of that? Now you're

installing the neurological hardware in your brain in preparation for an experience. And if the more you

experience. And if the more you understand what you're doing and why, >> the how gets easier. And if nothing's left the conjecture, superstition or dogma or spiritual new age stuff, but

it's grounded in science, >> you're going to have more intention behind what you're doing and you're going to assign more meaning to it.

>> More believable.

>> Exactly.

>> Not just blind faith.

>> No, something's backing it, >> right? And then if we can set up the

>> right? And then if we can set up the conditions in the environment and give people the proper instruction and those people that get their behaviors to match their intentions and their actions equal to their thoughts, think of the mind and

body working together. They're going to have a new experience. And that

experience then is going to enrich even more circuits in their brain. The end

product of an experience is an emotion.

All of a sudden, they're going to feel unlimited. They're going to feel

unlimited. They're going to feel empowered. They're going to feel

empowered. They're going to feel successful. They're going to feel

successful. They're going to feel worthy. Now they're teaching their body

worthy. Now they're teaching their body chemically to understand what their mind is intellectually understood. Knowledge

is for the mind, but experiences for the body. And they're embodying that

body. And they're embodying that information. Well, they've done it once

information. Well, they've done it once should be able to do it again. And well,

you keep repeating the experience. You

know this as an athlete. It's going to become automatic. It's going to become a

become automatic. It's going to become a need. It's going to become second

need. It's going to become second nature. It's going to become who you

nature. It's going to become who you are. You don't have to think about it

are. You don't have to think about it any longer. So, take a person who was uh

any longer. So, take a person who was uh abused as a child, but an alcoholic parent who has a very rare genetic disorder. They've manifested weakness in

disorder. They've manifested weakness in their bones because that's the emotion they live by.

genetic disorder that medical science says we have no way to help you. How do

you explain >> after a year of every day going after it, overcoming herself, overcoming herself, overcoming herself to become someone else that no more any fractured

bones, no evidence of broken bones, no more crutches, no more wheelchair running again. How do you explain that

running again. How do you explain that except she literally became someone else? She became somebody else. The

else? She became somebody else. The

disease existed in the old personality.

She's not that person any longer. No.

So biologically >> that's absolutely possible. So, for me, >> I chase the mystical.

>> I want those profound moments where I cannot go back to being the same guy again. Because once you taste that wine

again. Because once you taste that wine or you drink from that well, all of a sudden, the way you perceive reality changes because you start to see things

that always existed, but you didn't have the circuitry in place to perceive them.

Why? Because the inner vent is an experience. An experience enriches the

experience. An experience enriches the brain. We don't see things how they are.

brain. We don't see things how they are.

We see things how we are. So as you begin to change your circuitry, you're going to perceive more of reality. And

why? Because we we probably perceive 1% of reality. So how do we how do we begin

of reality. So how do we how do we begin to fully engage? Right? So for me, none of that matters. None of that veneer stuff matters. What matters is the

stuff matters. What matters is the essence. What matters is am I making a

essence. What matters is am I making a difference in the world? How can I begin to affect change and help people to heal or create a better life for themselves

and not do it matter to matter you know with bravado and you know adrenaline and all that that's the old way this is about connecting and instead of going and getting it creating a field where

you draw to you and the synchronicities and the coincidences >> and the opportunities that are coming to you as a result of you doing the inner work you're going to rush less in your

life And you're going to be more aware of your energy. And nobody changes until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life. But that doesn't mean you change

life. But that doesn't mean you change your energy. Do a meditation and you get

your energy. Do a meditation and you get up and then get on a freeway and flip people off. You just disconnected from

people off. You just disconnected from the energy of your future. You got to be greater than the conditions in your environment. You got to maintain that

environment. You got to maintain that state of being. You got to be greater than the habits and emotions of your body. And you got to sustain it for an

body. And you got to sustain it for an extended period of time.

>> How how do we change our energy? And how

do we sustain it for extended period of time?

>> How long has that time need to be until we really start to see >> and sometimes immediate? Okay. So, so

our research and we've done uh in the last 6 years uh because we were seeing so many incredible incredible things going on in our workshops. I mean people stepping out of wheelchairs and all kinds of crazy things.

>> Like a church kind of like >> a church like a mega church >> but hopefully not that >> based in science.

>> Yeah. But but but >> isn't it amazing that some of these churches when people get to believe whether they have science backing it or not they just it's the belief in the mind >> step out into the unknown >> you step out of your body

>> and and heal yourself >> instantaneously.

Instantaneously.

>> And we do see that a lot. And some

people like ah that's how can that be possible?

>> Well, how can it be possible? We've

we've done the research now.

>> I've assembled a team of scientists.

We've done 8,500 brain scans. I can tell you I can tell you when a person's about ready to change. I can tell you why people don't change. I can tell you what it takes to change.

>> So, what's it take to change?

>> Well, you change. Most people keep their attention always their awareness on their body. They keep their attention on

their body. They keep their attention on everything in their environment, people and things. Their their brain is always

and things. Their their brain is always scanning everything around us to determine what's known and unknown, what's safe and unsafe, right?

>> And you know, we do that all the time.

So our research shows that the moment you take your attention off your body and you go from somebody to nobody, you take your attention off the people in

your life and go from who you identify with from someone to no one. And so many people spend their whole life building an identity of being someone. Take your

attention off your cell phone, your computer, your car, and go from something to nothing.

>> Take your attention off where you're sitting, where you need to be, someplace you have to go. go from somewhere to nowhere and take your attention off time linear thinking about the predictable

future or the familiar past and fall into the generous present moment and go from sometime to no time then all you're left with is consciousness and that's

the moment you're no longer playing by the same rules of matter to matter and there's an a a very elegant moment that takes place in the brain in fact I was just showing my research to a group of

researchers and Santa Cruz this past week and they were blown away. And I

said, "Now watch this person. This

person's going to have a transformational moment." They said,

transformational moment." They said, "How do you know?" I go, "I I've seen enough of these." And the next moment, the whole brain just lights up. That

person is switched on. They they'll

never be the same person again. They're

having a transcendental moment. And we

could actually predict it and teach it now. It's a formula.

now. It's a formula.

>> Just like you doing sports, it just becomes a formula. And then you change the formula and you add to it, right? So

when you no longer are you're identifying with your body, your environment and time, that's the moment you're pure consciousness. Now

>> you're just an idea.

>> You're an awareness.

>> Awareness.

>> Awareness that has nothing to do with local space and time. And now if you're no longer >> go beyond anything.

>> You can go beyond. And that's when the brain because the brain doesn't change the brain. It takes a long time. It

the brain. It takes a long time. It

takes a long time for the personality to change the personality, for the ego to change the ego. The programs that change the programs takes forever. Matter takes

a long time to change matter. But when

you're in this moment, you're no longer playing by those rules. Consciousness is

the phenomenon above matter. In fact,

consciousness is beginning to activate or manipulate circuits in the brain.

People just think the brain is creating conscious. No, consciousness is

conscious. No, consciousness is executing the brain, right? So then if the brain can change then the mind doesn't change the brain.

Mind is the brain in action. It's

consciousness that changes it. So when

people begin to disengage and get beyond themselves, you are at your absolute best when you get beyond yourself and getting the person to that point.

>> How does someone get to that point?

>> Yeah. So we teach them that formula. We

teach them to that point where all of a sudden they reach that generous present moment where they just feel connected.

And when they're in that place, all the things they thought they wanted, they actually no longer want because they feel like they already have them.

>> So then imagine living your life from that place. You would be less uh

that place. You would be less uh judgmental. Uh you would be less

judgmental. Uh you would be less frustrated. You would be less impatient.

frustrated. You would be less impatient.

>> And so so the formula then is that it requires a clear intention which is a coherent brain. And when you're living

coherent brain. And when you're living stressed out and something goes wrong and you're threatened or you can't predict an outcome or you have a perception that something's getting

worse or you can't control it, you switch on that fight orflight nervous system that we talked about. Now, here's

what happens >> when that occurs. You start shifting your attention from one person to one problem to one thing to another person to another place because your brain is trying to predict the next moment. Well,

every one of those people and things and places has this neurological network in your brain. So, as you shift your

your brain. So, as you shift your attention from one to the next, it's like a lightning storm in the clouds.

Your brain starts firing very incoherently. When your brain is

incoherently. When your brain is incoherent, you're incoherent. And when

you're living by the hormones of stress, not a time to create.

>> No.

>> Not a time to open your heart. Not a

time to learn. Not a time to trust. And

it's a time to run, fight, or hide. So

people spend 70% of their time of their life living in the state. Wow. So think

about it. So miserable. Yeah. So then

when you're under stress, if there's a if there's a cougar around the corner, >> you're not going to sit down and meditate.

>> You're not going to sit still, right?

But but so you got you got the survival gene switched on and nobody is going to believe in possibility when you're living in survival, right?

>> So then when you're living in stress, what happens is you narrow your focus on the cause.

you narrow your focus on matter, the object, the thing. And so people get switched on and all of their attention is on their outer world. When the

hormones of stress kick on, body gets an arousal. Now your attention is on the

arousal. Now your attention is on the body. And of course, when you're under

body. And of course, when you're under stress, you're trying to predict the future based on the past. And now you're literally enslaved into three-dimensional reality. So then, how

three-dimensional reality. So then, how do you get what you want? You got to try harder. You got to force it more. You

harder. You got to force it more. You

got to work hard. You got to fight for it. It's matter. Trying to change

it. It's matter. Trying to change matter. Exhausting.

matter. Exhausting.

>> People will just burn out, right? So

then we now know that when you go from a narrow focus on something and you begin to open your focus, you create a sense and awareness that the act of opening

your focus causes you to stop thinking. And if you stop thinking, you no longer activate those circuits and you start to slow your brain waves down. And as you slow your brain waves down, you start

connecting through that autonomic nervous system, the thing that's giving you life. And all of a sudden, when you

you life. And all of a sudden, when you get beyond yourself, it says, "Uh, he's gone. Let's step in and just clean up

gone. Let's step in and just clean up this mess before he gets back. Really?

And its job is to create order and balance.

>> Your body will start to do that for you.

>> The innate intelligence will step right in. Once you connect, you got to

in. Once you connect, you got to connect. So, you got to know how to

connect. So, you got to know how to change your brain waves. You can't

change your brain waves. You stay in that active state. You're basically

moving furniture around. You're

analyzing your life within some disturbing emotion. And I can tell you

disturbing emotion. And I can tell you after looking at all those brain stands, >> if you're analyzing your life within some disturbing emotion, you're going to make your brain worse. In fact, you are

thinking in the past. Right? So, you

teach people the formula how to open their focus changes their brain waves connect to that invisible field and all of a sudden different compartments of the brain starts synchronizing. The

front of the brain starts talking to the back of the brain. The right side starts talking to the left side and all of a sudden what sinks in the brain links in the brain. And all of a sudden, you see

the brain. And all of a sudden, you see this person starting to feel more like themselves. And when you see those two

themselves. And when you see those two hemispheres of the brain start lighting up, watch out because that person's going to feel really whole. They're

going to start loving life. They're

going to feel like they're going to be in love with life because the union of polarity and duality is wholeness at the exact same time. Coherent brain. When

you're resentful, when you're judgmental, when you're impatient, your heart beats out of rhythm. Why? You're

stepping on the gas and you're stepping on the brake at the same time.

Your body and its intelligence living in survival is saying T-Rex is back there, but you're not running because you're sitting across the table looking at somebody smiling and your body's revved up, right? So, the heart is beating

up, right? So, the heart is beating arrhythmically. And when that happens,

arrhythmically. And when that happens, you're you're squandering. You're using

all the body's life force and turning it into chemistry. Right? You're

into chemistry. Right? You're

>> using all that energy to to survive as opposed to think beyond it.

>> Right. Right. So, you're drawing from your vital life force, that invisible field around your body, and you're turning into chemistry. you actually are going to shrink your own field. The

hormones of stress cause us to be materialists, right? We we we when we're

materialists, right? We we we when we're under stress, we're we're using our senses to determine reality. So now you feel more like matter and less like energy, more separate from possibility.

So then to teach a person then how to regulate that heart center. And we do this uh we've done 6,000 heart scans.

Why? Because if I can teach you how to get in that heart state and I can teach you how to activate that center and I can teach you how to regulate an elevated emotion, the heart starts to

create a very coherent signature. And

when the heart starts beating like a drum, like dropping a pebble in water, it begins to produce a measurable magnetic field up to 3 m wide. Now

you're more energy than matter, more wave than particle. Now that field that's being created is measurable and that's an energy and energy is frequency

and all frequency carries information.

So what is the information when it makes it here in the world?

>> It could carry the thought of your healing. Why? Because it's consistent

healing. Why? Because it's consistent with the energy. Guilt isn't going to carry the thought of your healing. It's

a different frequency. And all of a sudden now the person is elevating their emotional state and they're allowing their thought to be carried on that frequency. They're broadcasting a whole

frequency. They're broadcasting a whole new energetic signature. But thoughts

are the language of the brain and feelings are the language of the body.

And how you think and how you feel creates your state of being. So then the question is if you keep practicing >> creating that state of being, it should become familiar to you. Yes or no? The

word meditation literally means to become familiar with. So then if you're practicing moving into these elevated states and your heart is coherent and

we're measuring and I can say you got it now do it for 30 minutes now do it for 60 minutes and you practice creating that coherence you'll know when you're there and when you're not yes or no

>> and then you would be able to say like a skill like anything else give me a minute I'm going to step out and you're going to go back in the heart coherence and bring up that statement.

>> How do we get there in the heart?

>> Oh well then we practice the formula again. rest your attention, start

again. rest your attention, start calling up elevated emotions. And when

you start seeing that that starts happening, >> then you sustain it. Then you keep practicing and all of a sudden gets longer and longer and longer. Now what's

the relevance behind that? Well, we've

measured neurotransmitters.

So when a person actually activates their heart, the heart releases a chemical called uh oxytocin. Oxytocin is

actually the love chemical. Oxytocin

signals nitric oxide. Nitric oxide

signals another chemical called endothelial derived relaxing factor.

What does that do? Causes the vessels in your heart to swell. You will literally have energy in your heart. You will

literally feel like your heart is full.

Now, now once you have that feeling, >> you're not going to want to trade that feeling for anyone or anything. You're

going to say, "Why would I judge that person? If I judge that person, I'm

person? If I judge that person, I'm going to lose this feeling." Now, all of a sudden, you're self-regulating. Now

once the heart is activated, I just was at the research lab this week.

Once the heart is activated, it acts as an amplifier and it amplifies energy in the brain.

>> Where does all anxiety stem from?

>> Anxiety is doing this living in the survival. When you're living in

survival. When you're living in survival, I'll tell you this. When the

survival gene is activated out of the infinite potentials in the quantum field, you'll always choose the worst case scenario. Why? Because if you're in

case scenario. Why? Because if you're in survival and you're preparing for the worst, there's always better chances of surviving if anything less happens. So

people are always selecting the worst thing in their mind and they begin to emotionally embrace that future before it happens. Thought and emotion, you

it happens. Thought and emotion, you start conditioning. So you're

start conditioning. So you're conditioning the body to become the mind of fear. You keep doing that enough

of fear. You keep doing that enough times. Once the body becomes the mind,

times. Once the body becomes the mind, it's a subconscious program. Person has

a panic attack. Try as you may to control it with your conscious mind, you can't. You programmed it subconsciously.

can't. You programmed it subconsciously.

Now you worry about the next panic attack. And now as you start worrying

attack. And now as you start worrying about the next panic attack, it's the vigilance that creates the next one.

Wow. Now here's what's happening in our work.

>> People who are self-regulating and creating these elevated states. We have

we have heart scans of them sustaining heart coherence for a whole hour during a meditation. Then at the end of the

a meditation. Then at the end of the day, they're still wearing the the monitor. It's 8:00 at night. They're not

monitor. It's 8:00 at night. They're not

even in a meditation. And for a whole entire hour they're in heart coherence.

We say to the woman, "Uh, what's going on here?" She said, "I I have no idea. I

on here?" She said, "I I have no idea. I

was just getting ready for bed and all of a sudden my heart just swelled up. It

was so intense. I had to lay on my back and surrender to love instead of surrendering to fear." She had a spontaneous love attack instead of a spontaneous panic attack. Now, I would

call that the natural state of being. So

then if you're living by those elevated states and you know how to feel that emotion of your future before it happens, you're less likely to wait for it to happen because you'll feel like it

already happened. You'll less likely try

already happened. You'll less likely try to control it. You'll know that the moment you lose the feeling, you just disconnect it and you're going to make your way back. When you get good at it,

no person, no thing, no experience can take it away from you. Now you're

empowered. And if you understand the laws of how creation happens, then you're less likely to compete and rush to get what you want. You're going to know that it's going to come to you. And

now that's the new model of how do we create >> knowing it's going to come to us at the right time. What if we want it faster?

right time. What if we want it faster?

>> Yeah. You just do it again.

>> But remember, if you're trying to make it happen faster, you're back to the old self, >> right?

>> The new self would never do that. The

new self would constantly stay there.

And so then, how does it appear? It

appears in a way that you can't expect because if you can predict it, it's the known. It's going to come in a way that

known. It's going to come in a way that you haven't thought of an unknown and it's and it's got to rock your world.

It's got to catch you off guard. It's

got to leave you no doubt that what you've been doing inside of you that produces some effect outside of you. And

when you correlate what you've been doing inside of you with the effect that you produced outside of you, you're going to pay attention to what you did and do it again. and the energy of the joy that you feel when it happens,

you're going to use that energy to create again.

>> Now, people say to me, "Well, >> I'm this way because of that person and that thing." I would say to them, "So,

that thing." I would say to them, "So, you mean then that person or that experience out there is controlling your thoughts and feelings? That means you're a victim to your environment." But when

you start changing your thoughts and feelings and it starts to produce an effect in your environment, you're going to change the belief that you're a victim consciously or subconsciously of

your life to becoming more of a creator of your life. And now all of a sudden you become more a creator of your life.

You can't blame anybody. You can't say that person or that thing. You'd have to say I got to be greater than that environmental condition. Who in history

environmental condition. Who in history can I study that had the same challenges?

What what was what did they do? let me

just work that into my rehearsal so that I can improve. Right. Just like you've done with sports, it's the same process.

>> Yeah.

>> When do you experience the most love?

>> Oo. Personally,

>> yeah, that's a great question. So, um,

so it turns out that the signature of the quantum field is greater and greater degrees of oneness and wholeness, right?

So, think about it. Um, when we live in stress, we live in separation, right?

because our senses fool us into believing you're there and I'm here and everybody is separate from us and everything is separate from us. That's

3D reality, right?

>> But as you start opening this center, all of a sudden when you become nobody, no one, no thing, nowhere and no time, right? That's the moment that your

right? That's the moment that your consciousness lines up with the consciousness of the field. That's when

you are totally present. Now, here's the deal. If I can get people to believe

deal. If I can get people to believe that just because they can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

That they can just connect and pay attention to that field and stay present with it and become more aware of it moment after moment after moment. Every

interaction with that invisible field, every experience lays down new circuits in their brain for them to perceive more of it. Right.

of it. Right.

>> So then as they keep their attention on it, they start moving closer and closer to it. So they experience less

to it. So they experience less separation and more oneness and wholeness. So then when that happens

wholeness. So then when that happens there's a cascade of all kinds of physical and chemical and energetic things that begin to

happen. So for me the the best way that

happen. So for me the the best way that I can describe that field is it's intelligent love. It's greater levels of

intelligent love. It's greater levels of order and unity and oneness. And when

you strike it and you hit it, it is the most incredibly electric feeling you will ever have. It is the most familiar unfamiliar feeling you will ever have.

You will swear that you are ancient in that moment. And you will connect and it

that moment. And you will connect and it won't be just like love for your puppy.

>> You will feel it in every single cell of your body. And I mean like a a

your body. And I mean like a a vibration, a a coherence where your body becomes electric. And the only way we

becomes electric. And the only way we can describe that is love. You you you taste that one time.

>> You want it all.

>> Here's what I say. I always say >> the first time it happens, the first time it happened to me and every time since when I come back to my senses, I always say the same thing. Joe

Despensza, you got this all wrong because some veneer, some conditioning is lifted. You start realizing that the

is lifted. You start realizing that the way you think life is isn't that way. So

now when I've had those moments, Lewis, I have said there cannot be any more love than this until the next experience.

>> The next time >> I mean how much is there right? I mean

how you get super humbled. You get

>> What was the last time?

>> Oo about uh well about five days ago.

Yeah.

>> What was the moment? Oh, I just had a very profound mystical experience. I was

uh I'll I'll tell you the short story.

>> And how often does it happen also?

>> I don't know. I mean, I I I live for them. Yeah. Uh,

them. Yeah. Uh,

>> so you try to do it every month if I can or like >> No, I I I just do the meditations and uh and then when they happen if I'm just in the right place and I don't have a plane

to catch or an email to answer and I have a little laxity and I can kind of surrender into the moment. I just um I had this incredible uh I don't know how

to describe this but uh they there was a geometric pattern like a mandala. I

don't know what it was. And it moved right through my entire body. And it was like uh working with me with my physical body. And if I could surrender to it, it

body. And if I could surrender to it, it was just incredible bliss. I mean,

incredible incredible bliss. I mean, I don't know how to describe it. And and

and when that occurs, uh >> when it happened to me, I had this my heart was just lit up like it was it was a it was an experience. It wasn't a physical experience, you know. It was it

was from within. And here's the weird thing. Every time it happens, my heart

thing. Every time it happens, my heart feels alive. Like it lasts for days. Like the

alive. Like it lasts for days. Like the

emotion from the experience >> last for days. And people are like, "Uh, what's up with you?" Like what? And

you're just kind of got joyful.

>> Got this big smile on your face. I just

am so happy to be alive. Right. So I

think that independent of listen I now know I mean we've measured genetic changes, hormonal changes, neurotransmitter changes. We've

measured immune system responses by trading fear for gratitude. We've

measured gene expressions. We now know that people can uh signal the gene to to for to reduce cancer and tumors, the signal the gene to grow new neurons.

We've measured this signal the gene for uh for stem cells to go to damaged tissues and repair them. Oxidative

stress gene signal. We we've we've seen that in our in our students. Now, here's

the deal.

>> After all of those studies in the last six years, you can't tell me you're too old to do this work. Can't tell me that we got people in their 80s doing miraculous things. You can't tell me

miraculous things. You can't tell me you're too sick to do this work. the

people that were the end of their life, stage four, and re turn that battleship around.

>> You can't tell me that you had too turbulent of a past to do this for people that were really rough past that are now free. You can't tell me uh you're not you've never meditated before. We have people that have never

before. We have people that have never meditated before the most profound mystical experience. You you can't tell

mystical experience. You you can't tell me you're too overweight, too underweight, too out of shape, too in shape. You can't tell me that anywhere

shape. You can't tell me that anywhere because all colors, all races, everybody can do it. That's the cool part about it. And when you get a community of

it. And when you get a community of people together, uh, and you move them from one state of mind to another, there's this moment, and I can almost predict when it happens, the second or

third day, where people just start hooking up. And then when they start

hooking up. And then when they start hooking up, you know, we start, we're seeing now at our events. I mean, a lady that was blind from birth, 5% vision by

the end of the event was seeing. I mean,

>> how do you explain that? We had three people in the last two uh events that were deaf that are shearing now. Wow.

>> People with crutches that were limited or walking without crutches and canes, spinal cord injuries, I mean Parkinson's disease in in a week

>> like um that's got to be like doesn't doesn't wake you up to what's possible.

And you're witnessing a tumor in a woman's thyroid that was there at the beginning of the event is gone at the end of the event. I mean like you you got to scratch your head and just go, "Wow, the reality

>> isn't at all the way I think it is."

Right? And so there's this humility that comes like, "Well, I don't know anything, >> but I'm willing to go down push the envelope a little bit more." So we're

only as good as our ability to execute this, right?

But as we get better at >> consistency of it, too. Yeah.

>> Consist I'm all about consistency. And

I'm I'm be the first guy to say, "Do the blood test, do the scan, let's do the test to make sure that it's just not in your mind, it's in your brain. Let's

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>> And do you feel like you've answered those questions to for yourself? Who am

I? Why am I here? What am I doing?

>> Yeah, I think so. I I think though >> or there questions you still haven't answered.

>> No, I mean it's not that there's questions that I still haven't answered.

It's just that I'm I'm always changing my answers because I'm not I mean even my definition of surrender just from 6 months ago is not even close to the same definition that I have today.

>> What's the definition now?

>> Well, surrender man was just greater degrees of letting go and trusting. I

just like like if like when my world is going sideways and my staff is just freaking out, I'm always like, "Oh, I'm just going to let go. I'm just I'm not going to control anything." They're

like, "What? The ship is sick." I'm

like, "Yeah, but I got to go against the chemicals and I got to trust." And

>> because if you're going to stress in that moment and have anxiety, you're going to create more of that.

>> Oh, you're you're going to make things worse. So, I just let go all the way.

worse. So, I just let go all the way.

All the way. And and you got to lay down the very thing you used your whole life to get what you want for something greater to occur. And that's not that's

not one bite. That's not one leap.

>> It's a practice. And so is letting go a little bit more and trusting. If you if you over surrender, that's that's lazy and lethargic. If you over intend,

and lethargic. If you over intend, that's trying and forcing. So there's

this razor's edge between intention and surrender, right? You got to be able to

surrender, right? You got to be able to be able to >> take action. Right. Yeah. Right. Right.

Right. But you don't want to get in the way, right? So, and that's just that's a

way, right? So, and that's just that's a lot of trial and error, you know, but you figure it out, right?

>> Wow.

>> Yeah.

What do you feel like your mission is right now then?

>> Wow. So, um, for me right now, I mean, my passion is these weekl long events.

Uh, >> how many do you do a year?

>> We do about 10, uh, about, oh, just a little less than once a month, you know, around the world. And it's usually about a thousand people. Uh, and now what we're doing is we're doing this whole

another level. We're doing two uh,

another level. We're doing two uh, really cool things. One is a challenge activity. And what I want to do is uh we

activity. And what I want to do is uh we now know that our students can create a lot of brain and heart coherence, but they can do it with their eyes closed in a room with a thousand people and soft

music playing and they feel safe. But

>> now let's get them in a situation where that would normally elicit fear or some emotion.

>> Get them in the real world.

>> Get them in the real world and get them up somewhere where they're feeling a little uncomfortable >> or they're being challenged through endurance >> and let's see them create brain heart coherence right on that spot. like this

is this is the moment. This is this is your life. Like you got to be able to do

your life. Like you got to be able to do this right now. You can't say I can't.

It's too hard. I can't do this. I'll

start tomorrow. I don't want to. That's

not the moment. That's what you do in your life. Let's put you there and

your life. Let's put you there and instead of just white knuckling and pushing through. Let's get really

pushing through. Let's get really conscious. Surrender.

conscious. Surrender.

>> Let's get really present. Let's create

that heart and brain coherence and let's work it and then make the move when you're in that state. You know, rhythm through that resistance. create that

kind of coherence and and and and I was just at the heart math institute who we partner with and we were the doc children the guy that created heart math he said it's all about rhythm through

resistance it's about that ability to create that kind of internal order when there's chaos going on around you so what's the relevance of that person who's going through a challenge

activity that's a huge obstacle course and they have the belief that they have a spinal cord injury or they have MS or Parkinson's this disease and they never tried anything in their life and we got them up there and there's people rooting

for them and they're in that state and they're in that heart collars and they go through that whole course and they've overcome they're going to walk back in their life and whatever challenges that they have they're going to be like >> there's nothing

>> this is nothing I've just reset the scale so >> and the other thing is that people move past where they normally can go there's a liberation of energy and that's available energy that just needs to be

organized so that they start organizing that energy, then they're doing magic.

The other thing we're working on is um is uh non-local healing. We call the cage. We got a person to lay down with a

cage. We got a person to lay down with a health condition. We get eight people

health condition. We get eight people around them. We teach them about

around them. We teach them about energetic coherence. We talk to them

energetic coherence. We talk to them about the science that it's not matter that emits a field. It's the field that creates matter. Change the field. You

creates matter. Change the field. You

change matter. We give them the science and the understanding. And then we let them go. And we have seen people

them go. And we have seen people all kinds of healings take place in 10 minutes. Like how do you explain that?

minutes. Like how do you explain that?

>> How do you explain a person laying there who isn't even being touched and their entire body is moving in all these different directions by with energy?

It's it's incredible. So

>> I want to develop that. Why I want to get so good at that, Lewis, that 50% of those people that are laying down get up healed. We're going to walk into a city

healed. We're going to walk into a city when we do a weeklong event. We're going

to call the children's hospital. We're

going to say send those kids with cancer. We're going to we're going to

cancer. We're going to we're going to we're going to change futures, right?

And and and man, you know, you talk about opening your heart, but if you you think you open your heart, but when you get an opportunity to give and and you and these people have been working all

week long, when it comes time to heal, they're not saying, "Oh, my back hurts."

They're not saying, "How long is this going to go? Am I doing it right?"

>> Transform someone's life. Yeah.

>> They left that they left those attitudes on Monday. This is Friday. This is

on Monday. This is Friday. This is

Saturday. They're not they're hooked.

They've been connecting to the field all week long. They're not they're not in

week long. They're not they're not in their analytical mind. They're beyond

their body. They know how to get beyond their environment. They they know how to

their environment. They they know how to get beyond time.

>> So when it comes time to execute, they've been practicing all week.

They've been they've been in a camp.

They've been practicing. So So you get a group of people doing that together and all of a sudden the we've measured the energy of the room and the energy of the room always goes up. It just goes up and that's available energy to heal. That's

available energy to do the mystical. So,

I just want to get consistent and I want to get really good at it.

>> And it and it's not about me.

>> Not good at it yet.

>> Well, we we were making great changes in like unbelievable changes in people's health. But before I step out into the

health. But before I step out into the world and say, "Let's go to the children's hospital in Toronto >> and let's call up the oncologists there and say, "Hey, we'll never touch the kids.

>> We'll just lay them down.

>> Want to hang out?"

>> It'll just be a half an hour. They'll

just be laying on the ground and then we'll be done. and develop a relationship. I want to be good enough

relationship. I want to be good enough >> that when we do do it that we're gonna execute an outcome. Yeah. And and and and that way we're beyond reproach. It's

no longer a bunch of spiritualists doing this. There's a science behind it and we

this. There's a science behind it and we now know it.

>> Thousands of cases or >> Yeah. We've got we've got tons of cases

>> Yeah. We've got we've got tons of cases now. Exactly.

now. Exactly.

>> But I don't know the statistics. We're

going to start doing the statistics now and we're going to start tracking those changes. So then I can say without a

changes. So then I can say without a shadow of a doubt, yeah, we're at 30% or the last three events we had 30% remission. Not not just like it goes

remission. Not not just like it goes away for a little bit, but it goes away and stays away.

>> That's cool.

>> And some people go in the healing, they get in the cage for their knee problems and they come out hearing better. That

just happened to a guy the other day. He

he he had a bad knees and he was he went in to get his knees healed, but he forgot that he's, you know, he didn't think about his hearing problem. when he

got bit by a poisonous snake when he was like a three-year-old kid and always had hearing problems, wears hearing aids, the whole bit comes out of the the he said he had never felt in that amount of love in his entire life. And that's the

common thing that people say. The woman

that got her vision back. That's not

what she talked about. She didn't talk about the fact that she could see. All

she kept saying was, "I feel like a child again. I feel like a baby again. I

child again. I feel like a baby again. I

feel fresh. I feel like a newborn. I

feel clean." She kept talking about how she felt. Then she said, "Oh, yeah, and

she felt. Then she said, "Oh, yeah, and I can see faces now." And there were these two big uh >> flower arrangements on the stage. And

she said, "I thought those were guards guarding Dr. Joe the whole week." She

couldn't even see the flowers. She just

saw the, you know, the thorn. And she

go, "I can see the flowers now." But but the first thing was how they felt. And

he the same way. He said, "I had never I was sobbing. I never felt so much love

was sobbing. I never felt so much love in my life. It wasn't like I was trying to feel it. It just happened." And he said, "And I got up and all of a sudden I could hear Dr. Joe talking without my hearing aids." And I just kind of like

hearing aids." And I just kind of like my knees were a little better, but my hearing is a lot better, you know? So,

you never know, right? You never know.

>> Shoot. Everyone's got to get in the cage.

>> In the cage. Yeah.

>> I like to give people a challenge. I'm

curious. I want everyone listening for the next seven days to try something.

>> And if you could give one to three different things that we could think differently or eliminate.

Mhm.

>> When a thought comes to us or we react in a certain way, if there's something you think that if we eliminated >> one, two or three things and we did this every day for seven days, we would start

to see incredible >> feelings of differently, would feel healthier, more lively, more loved. What

would be those few things?

>> Okay. Well, most people number one, they get up in the morning and uh the first thing they do is they think about the problems in their life.

>> And those problems are memories from the past. So the moment they think about

past. So the moment they think about their problems or thinking in the past, right? Every one of those problems has

right? Every one of those problems has an emotion attached to them. So they

start feeling unhappy or unworthy or whatever. And how you think and how you

whatever. And how you think and how you feel is your state of being. So most

people's entire state of being is in the past when they start the day. So if

they're in the familiar past, they're going to live in a predictable future, right? So they get up and they check

right? So they get up and they check their cell phone, they check their text, their WhatsApp, their Facebook, they post something on Facebook, they tweet, they Twitter, they check the news, then they go to the bathroom, get a cup of coffee, take a shower, get dressed,

check more emails, drive to work the same way, do the same thing. So they're

in a program, they've actually lost their free will to the program.

>> Wow.

>> So if you start your day and you start your day with this simple question, what is the greatest ideal of myself that I can be today?

>> You ask yourself that question. Now

listen, your body's gonna go like, "Well, we got to get a cup of coffee and you got I'm tired of and you got to go, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, body, uh, you're not the mind. I'm the mind right now. You're

the mind. I'm the mind right now. You're

gonna sit here. I'm gonna feed you.

>> Uh, you're going to get your coffee.

You're going to do all those things, but right now, this is my time. You're going

to obey me." Right? So now, the body is no longer the mind. You're the mind. And

so when it wants to get up and you become aware of it, you return back to the present moment. Every time you do, that's a victory.

>> And you're changing some aspect of yourself. So then ask yourself, I do

yourself. So then ask yourself, I do this all the time. Write down four thoughts that you're going to stay conscious of the whole day. I can't.

It's too hard. You'd be surprised. The

moment you become conscious of what those thoughts are, how unconscious you've been to them all day for weeks on end. Write down what you speak, how you

end. Write down what you speak, how you speak, four things you want to change, how you act, how do you how do you act?

Do you complain? Do you blame? You make

excuses? You feel sorry for yourself?

That's a victim consciousness. What

emotions do you live by? Is it possible that you're so used to living by guilt, you don't even know it's guilt, it just feels like you? Do you do you allow your energy to drop? Become conscious of those states of mind and body and review

them and say, "This is the old self."

Then say, "What thoughts do I want to fire and wire in my brain?" And start firing and wiring and start feeling it.

What behaviors will I demonstrate today?

What choices will I make one day, one lifetime? And just like you did,

lifetime? And just like you did, rehearse them. rehearse the whole entire

rehearse them. rehearse the whole entire thing. Begin to install the neurological

thing. Begin to install the neurological hardware in your brain. And if you keep installing it, the hardware is going to become a software program. You're going

to start thinking and acting that way.

And then here's the tough part. Can you

teach your body emotionally what your future's going to feel like before it's made manifest?

>> And don't get up until you feel that way. No. Practice that for a few days.

way. No. Practice that for a few days.

And then see if you can stay in that state and watch all of a sudden all those weird doors start opening for you.

>> Synchronicities, >> synchronicities, whatever they are.

Number two, take a time at the end of your day, the end of your day before you lay down and give thanks for your life and feel gratitude and really teach your body

what it feels like. The emotional

signature of gratitude when gratitude means you're getting something. If I

give you something that's of value, you would say thank you because you would feel it, right? So when you're receiving, you're giving thanks. So gratitude is the ultimate state of receiving.

>> So then people only accept, believe, and surrender to the thoughts equal to their emotional state.

>> So if you're in a state of gratitude, every thought's going to make it right down into your body. If you're saying, "I'm I'm healthy. I'm healthy. I'm

healthy. I'm wealthy. I'm wealthy. I'm

wealthy." And your body's programmed the negativity. It's saying, "No, you're

negativity. It's saying, "No, you're not. No, you're not. No, you're not that

not. No, you're not. No, you're not that thought. It's going to stop right here.

thought. It's going to stop right here.

So, as you elevate your state, there are about 1,200 different chemical reactions that go on in the body that begin to restore and repair the body in a state of gratitude.

And so, we've done the research to prove that. 10 minutes and just feel it with

that. 10 minutes and just feel it with all of your heart. That's it.

>> Wow. Third thing and and very important take time whenever it is sit down, close your eyes and begin to just open your

awareness to the space around you and just sense it and pay attention to it and become more aware of it. The act of opening your awareness begins to reduce the stress hormones and creates more

coherent brain wave states. I'm doing it right now and it's just a practice.

Yeah, >> it's just a practice. And the more you do it, the better you get at it.

>> Wow. Who's been your greatest teacher?

>> Oh, life. No doubt about it. I believe

that life is our initiation. I mean, uh, I I um I I do my best to see my life as a reflection of my mind. And I think that

>> and I think that life is our greatest teacher.

>> Reflection of your mind is essentially like what you've created is a reflection of how you've been thinking.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. So, if you're showing up sick physically, then that's what you've created in your body.

>> Look, I don't believe the germs make me sick. I believe I make me sick. I do. I

sick. I believe I make me sick. I do. I

mean, there's no germs with my name on it out there. I mean, they're called opportunistic bacteria because they're waiting for an opportunity for your immune system to be compromised.

>> And so, for me personally, I you have to ask myself this question every day.

>> At what point do I stop believing that I create my life? What what is that point?

So I'm always pushing that envelope a little bit more. So for me I think life is our initiation. We don't need to go to any ancient school of wisdom in the

Himalayas. We we life is our initiation.

Himalayas. We we life is our initiation.

And when you meet the challenges in your life from a greater level of mind, >> you're going to begin to move through those initiations. And what is the side

those initiations. And what is the side effect of that? Wisdom.

>> And that's what we take with us. Yeah.

Being wise. Powerful.

>> Wow. How can we connect with you online and go to your events? What's the best place to go to to see everything?

>> Yeah, so my website is just drispensza.com.

drispensza.com.

drispensza.com and there's just a ton of resources there. We we have an online progressive

there. We we have an online progressive course now. I don't teach those courses

course now. I don't teach those courses anymore because my interest is in the weeklongs. So for people who come to a

weeklongs. So for people who come to a weekl long, they do a a home study course where they get the basics, they understand what we're doing. Uh it's

about 23 hours. They can do it in however long they want and and then with that comes another study course and then they can come to a weekl long and join a community of people that are all about passion and the unknown.

>> Amazing.

>> Yeah.

>> Amazing. When's the next event?

>> Um well the next event gosh the next weekong is in Toronto uh September 1st through 7th and uh it's pretty close to sold out. Yeah. Then we'll be in the uh

sold out. Yeah. Then we'll be in the uh in Australia in October and then uh the UK in November and then Cancun, Mexico in December. And then I got, you know, I

in December. And then I got, you know, I got a couple events that I'm doing here and there. Well, other things. Yeah.

and there. Well, other things. Yeah.

>> Listen.

>> Yeah.

>> Um couple final questions for you. This

one's called the three truths. They ask

everyone at the end.

>> If you imagine it's your last day many years from now, >> Mhm.

>> and you've achieved or created or been anything you've wanted to do, you've done it all, right? Everything you can think of has happened, created it.

>> Books, events, whatever you want to do, heal the world. You've done it all.

>> Um, for whatever reason, you've got to take everything with you. All your

writings, your research, your material, videos, events. It's not available for

videos, events. It's not available for anyone to have anymore.

>> Mhm.

>> But you have a piece of paper and you get to write down three things you know to be true about your life or the lessons that you would leave behind. And

this is the only lessons that they would have >> access to. Mhm.

>> What would you say are your three truths?

>> Oh wow. Uh number one is that the divine lives in every human being >> and that uh we have to make an effort to connect with it every day and when we do it answers the call in ways that we

would just never anticipate and uh I know that to be the truth and that uh nobody is so special to be excluded from that melanin. Uh number

two is that uh we are the creators of our lives and not the victims of our lives and that taking time in your life to invest in yourself is uh to invest in

a future and when you invest in yourself you invest in your future and when you believe in yourself you believe in possibility and I think that everybody secretly believes in themselves and so

taking time to understand that we are just works in progress and and to find time to forgive ourselves and to forgive others

>> to start fresh this the next day is a blessing is a blessing and and finally uh um I think that it's it's not our

purpose in life to be popular or successful or beautiful or or uh intelligent our purpose in life is to

remove those blocks those veils those limitations that stand in the way between us and that divine intelligence And when we do um it begins to make its

way through us and we become more like it. We become more loving. It is a

it. We become more loving. It is a loving intelligence. We become more

loving intelligence. We become more giving. It's a giver of life. We become

giving. It's a giver of life. We become

more conscious. It's a consciousness. We

become more mindful. It has an infinite mind. We become more willful. It has an

mind. We become more willful. It has an amazing will. Its nature uh becomes our

amazing will. Its nature uh becomes our nature. Its mind becomes our mind. And

nature. Its mind becomes our mind. And

and then we don't have to try to be liked or try to be important or try to be recognized. We're just happy for no

be recognized. We're just happy for no reason at all. And I and I think that is the natural state of being. And I think that we innately know that on some level.

>> Great truths. Thank you. Um, before I ask the final question, I want to acknowledge you for a moment, Joe, for constantly pushing the envelopes on what's possible and constantly learning

and growing and researching so that you can continue to help so many people in the world overcome pain, overcome stress, overcome disease, anything that's holding us back. And I really

acknowledge the work that you're doing because I think it's wakening so many people up to what they thought was possible and were limited to to now what is actually possible for them. So I

acknowledge you for all that.

>> Thank you. I'll leave that in all the way.

>> I appreciate it and uh love to have you come back on sometime in the future. U

but for now I think that's going to blow people's minds. I was extremely inspired

people's minds. I was extremely inspired by everything you said. Uh so the final question is what's your definition of greatness?

M so greatness my definition of greatness is to be greater than your environment to be greater than your body and to be greater than time and if you

do you will be great I mean that is it >> thank you man appreci many people are waiting for something in their life to change to take away the

lack or the separation of not having the life that they want you work hard and you start accumulating abundance or wealth and you start thinking okay I want the boat when you get the boat and

The experience produces an emotion.