Joe Dispenza: You've Been Programmed To Stay BROKE, STUCK & EXHAUSTED - Here's How To Break It!
By Jay Shetty Podcast
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Repetitive thoughts become hardwired beliefs**: Thinking the same thoughts repeatedly wires neural pathways, making them automatic and unconscious. To change, you must become conscious of these unconscious beliefs, as they dictate your choices, behaviors, and experiences. [01:11], [01:23] - **Emotions condition the body to relive the past**: Emotions are a record of past experiences. When you feel an emotion, your body believes it's reliving that experience, conditioning it to live in the past and perpetuating a cycle of familiar feelings and thoughts. [02:34], [05:01] - **Mental rehearsal rewires the brain for future success**: Imagining yourself acting and feeling in a desired future scenario creates neural pathways that the brain perceives as real. Consistent mental rehearsal helps align your behaviors with your intentions. [06:35], [06:51] - **Elevated emotions signal genes before the environment**: By feeling elevated emotions associated with a desired future, your body believes it's already in that future. This signals genes ahead of environmental changes, initiating transformation from within. [07:35], [08:03] - **Meditation means becoming familiar with your new self**: The word 'meditation' means 'to become familiar.' By consciously practicing new thoughts and emotions, you become familiar with your desired future self, reconditioning your body to a new mind. [08:12], [08:21] - **Stress narrows focus, hindering change and growth**: When under stress, the brain narrows its focus on survival, making it harder to access the present moment or engage in growth. This chronic state depletes energy needed for repair and long-term projects. [25:01], [25:16]
Topics Covered
- Your repetitive thoughts hardwire your reality.
- Your body craves familiar negative emotions.
- Mentally rehearse your future to rewire your brain.
- Slow your brainwaves to reprogram your subconscious.
- Coherent heart and brain manifest new realities.
Full Transcript
most people lose their free will to
those programs and it's that
uncompromising will where you keep
training the animal to stay to get
beyond all the Cravings the feelings the
habits of the body and catch yourself
the bestselling author and host the
number one Health and Wellness podcast
on purpose with J
shett I think the most beautiful and
powerful thing in the world is a
repetitive thought but sometimes the
most dangerous thing in the world is a
repetitive thought absolutely and we
think about the most beautiful things we
create is because we're obsessed with
this new idea and this new thought that
we want to build something but at the
same time we know countless people who
they have a thought every day that says
I'm unlovable I'm
unworthy I don't deserve love in my life
if someone's having a negative
repetitive thought specifically around
selfworth what they believe they deserve
in love where do they start with that
thought well we think primarily uh 90%
of the time we think the same thoughts
as we thought the day before the
challenge with that is the thought that
you keep thinking over and over again
becomes belief and nerve cells that fire
together wire together so the more nerve
cells fire the more they develop
long-term relationships and the more
hardwired they become the more hardwired
they become the more automatic they are
the more automatic they are the more
unconscious they become come so the
process of change really requires
becoming conscious of your unconscious
thoughts which means just because you
have that thought doesn't necessarily
mean it's the truth if you have that
thought and you accept it you believe it
you surrender to it without analyzing it
that thought will lead to the same
Choice which will lead to the same
behavior which will create the same
experience which then will produce the
same emotion the same emotions then
drive our very same thoughts in time our
biology our neurocircuitry our neur
chemistry our hormones and even our gene
expression stays the same because we're
the same so in the process of change
when you come up against that
unconscious belief and you make it
conscious most people get uncomfortable
uh when they confront that thought and
they're stopping an automatic process
and the body which has been conditioned
to be the mind because it's doing
something over and over again that's a
habit is craving the experience because
it wants the emotion associated with it
right so the thought of being unworthy
produces the feeling of being unworthy
that feeling then when the person feels
unworthy tends to cause the person to
think more unworthy thoughts it only
takes a thought and a
feeling an image of yourself and an
emotion a stimulus and
response and you can condition the body
to memorize that behavior and that
emotional state better than the
conscious mind so the moment we inhibit
that thought or the moment we become
conscious of and we no longer accept it
there's a biological craving that takes
place in the body because the body has
been conditioned to be the mind so the
body starts influencing the mind to
think more corresponding thoughts equal
to that feeling so here comes the
assault now you're not only unworthy
you're you're everything else that goes
along with that
feeling and this is where uh people have
to make up their mind if they truly want
to change because if you decide to
confront that thought and make a
different Choice get ready because
you're going to feel uncomfortable it's
going to feel unfamiliar and it's going
there's going to be some uncertainty cuz
you're stepping out of familiar
territory now you're stepping out of the
known and you're stepping into the
unknown now this is really when you
leave the bleachers and you get on the
playing field because the brain
immediately looks around in its
environment to see if anything's
changing because you're changing and you
see that nothing in your world is
changing because you actually haven't
fully changed yet so the moment we look
for evidence in our life and we don't
see it sooner or later most people
accept that thought which leads to the
same Choice which creates the same
behavior which creates the same
experience that produces the same
feeling then they say oh this feels
right to me no that feels familiar
because you've just returned back to the
known self I think that when people
truly want to make up their mind to
change and they become so conscious of
those unconscious thoughts they would
never go unconscious to them again
that's the moment the body is being
reconditioned to a new mind if you
inhibit that choice that leads to that
habit or that behavior a habit is when
you've done something so many times the
body knows how to do it better than the
brain now you're stopping the body from
being on its automation on
autopilot and if the body is craving the
feeling of unworthiness and you're
stopping the body from feeling that way
and you're
aware in your life how you speak
you're aware in your life how you're
feeling and you're checking in you're
saying do I really want to feel this way
this is that River of change where
you're going from the old self to the
new self so it makes sense then if those
principles and biology work in that way
they could actually work in our favor so
if you said okay I'm going to sit down
for a few minutes I'm going to become so
conscious of my unconscious self my
unconscious personality that Victory
today would not be going unconscious to
those thoughts behaviors and emotions
okay let me get so familiar with them
that I don't go unconscious okay I got
that
down now what what thoughts do I want of
fire and wire in my brain and if a
belief is a thought that you keep
thinking over and over again with
intention and with attention you'll
switch on that prefrontal cortex and
assign meaning to the ACT and start
installing new circuits in your brain if
you keep doing it over and over again it
becomes more hardwired it becomes more
automatic and now you're installing a
new belief that you are worthy of love
you are worthy of abundance you are
worthy to heal whatever that is that's
the thought you do want to believe in
and when it matters the most is when
it's the hardest because if you don't
have the circuitry in place you'll
default back to the old programs right
so then if you said how am I going to be
in my zoom calls today how am I going to
be in traffic today how am I going to be
with my ex my co-workers
uh and you started thinking about and
rehearsing how you were going to act in
certain situations the brain actually
doesn't know the difference between the
real life experience and what you're
Imagining the research on mental
rehearsal shows that the brain will look
like in time that it's already had the
experience and it's vacant of the
experience now keep firing and wiring
those circuits and you're going to begin
to behave that way so now you're
installing circuitry now to use in your
life to get your behaviors to match your
intentions if you said how would it feel
to feel worthy of love how would it feel
to be grateful for Life how would it
feel to be worthy of abundance and you
said I'm going to teach my body
emotionally what this feels like before
the manifestation of the event you're
not waiting for your life to change to
feel worthy you're actually changing
your life by becoming worthy you're
generating abundance you're generating
love you're creating an elevated emotion
m M now our data is so compelling
because when you truly begin to elevate
your emotional state and you could
really lock in you know to those
elevated
emotions your body is so
objective that it actually believes that
it's living in a whole new
environment before the environment
changes in other words the body is
believing it's in that new future and if
the environment signals the Gene and it
does and the end product of an
experience the environment is an emotion
you're actually signaling genes ahead of
the environment and your body will begin
to become conditioned to a new mind now
think about this if you did that every
day the word meditation literally means
become familiar with you become familiar
with your old self you become familiar
with your new self and you say I'm not
getting up until I feel this
feeling and then you'd say I want to be
able to bring this feeling up whenever I
want I'm going to keep remembering this
feeling over and over again only takes a
thought feeling an image of the future
and emotion a stimulus and response you
can condition your body to believe it's
living in a whole new life and when you
feel the emotions of your future
something amazing happens you're no
longer in lack or separation so you're
no longer looking for the event to take
away that feeling of lack or separation
your body's actually believing it's in
the event and so then you're not looking
for it you feel like it's already
happened get ready because that's when
your life begins to change and so we've
discovered that if you're actually
practicing this and you immersed
yourself in that experience fully for
7even days the amount of metabolic and
biological changes that will take place
in your body will be so significant that
your body will actually believe it's
living in that future and yet most of
the people that come to our workshops
are literally in a ballroom there's
nothing really exciting happening in the
environment but their bodies believing
they're living in a whole new life and
so one thought leads to a choice which
leads to a behavior which creates an
experience that produces an emotion so
then new information new knowledge
begins to cause you to think differently
if you can remember that knowledge and
begin to make a different choice because
you want to experience the truth of that
information you'll have to behave
differently and when the experience
occurs and you feel the feeling of your
abundance or wealth I guarantee you
you're going to continue wanting to make
the process of change something
consistent in your life this is why I
love talking to you I mean that
literally you could just what you just
said there I hope everyone listens to it
again and again and again and partly I
think there's something to be said for
that the best things that have rewired
my brain and my mind were things that I
repeated daily I took something that I
loved listening to or loved learning or
reading a paragraph of a book and I
would literally just reprogram Myself by
giving that to my mind every single day
yeah and as I'm listening to you talk I
think there's a few really powerful
things I wanted to pull out uh when I
lived as a monk and studied the Vaders
they would talk about thoughts in
different modes and there are three
modes the mode of ignorance the mode of
passion and the mode of goodness and
there's a hierarchy to those thoughts
and so the mode of ignorance would be an
unfulfilling thought or a completely
fear or insecurity based thought which
would be I am not worthy or I am unlucky
and I can't do that I can't be in love
no one can be in love with me that's
like a mode of ignorance thought a mode
of passion thought would be I can be in
love with anyone I want and I can find
anything and uh it's it's almost like
you know you're lying to yourself and
you haven't really you haven't really
applied what you're saying and it's just
this big bold statement but it doesn't
quite sit and
resonate and the mode of goodness
thought is I can take steps daily to
create love in my life right now and and
you start to see how people would often
look at what we're saying and they think
oh it's just positive thinking it isn't
it's not it's not just a false statement
what you're saying is what you two words
you used intention and attention you're
actually being conscious about where
that intention and the attention is
being placed you're intending that if I
do something every day and I place my
attention on
XYZ then I can create this new reality
for myself whenever I have a tough
conversation coming up a tough meeting
something difficult I'll rehearse it in
my head and you're so right that you can
prepare for the future even when I do
skydiving or if I'm sitting in a cold
plunge I'm preparing my mind before I
even do it there's no point of just
jumping in and diving in I think what's
really interesting is that partly a lot
of the anxiety and stress we feel is
because we kind of hope that we'll never
feel anxiety and stress again so there's
a sense of like okay I get to a place
where I never experienced anxiety I I
almost think that that sets us up to be
more hurt by the anxiety and inevitable
uncertainty will feel I would love to
hear your thoughts gosh let me love to
respond this we got three thoughts going
on at the same time do it so so to
fulfill the first part of that question
it's an
experiment right it's an experiment life
is an experiment so if your personality
creates your personal reality and your
personality is made of how you think how
you act and how you feel if you keep
thinking the same way you keep acting
the same way you keep feeling the same
way your life is going to stay the same
because you're the same so the
experiment is okay let me begin to think
differently so I got to remind myself
how I do want to think and I have to
remind myself of how I no longer want to
think so I don't default and go
unconscious let me remind myself how I'm
going to behave so that I could actually
get my behaviors to match my intentions
and let me remind myself of how I'm
going to feel if I'm able to succeed in
that day then there should be some
change in my life this the experiment
that and and and if it doesn't change
that doesn't mean the law doesn't work
for you it's just you're not that good
yet it just you just got to keep
practicing right so the act of
disconnecting from your life long enough
to remind yourself of who you do want to
be and who you no longer want to be that
experiment then is the experiment called
life now it's not that you
react the question is how long are you
going to react that's the real question
cu I mean I react all the time I
everybody does but if you're going to
stay there and you're going to live in
that emotional state you will see life
through that lens of that emotion right
so now it gets complicated because the
stronger the emotion you feel towards
certain people or problems in your life
the more you pay attention to them and
where you place your attention is where
you place your energy so from a purely
biological as well as Quantum State we
could say then you're using that person
or that circumstance to reaffirm your
dependence on feeling that emotion so
you have to hate your enemy and if your
enemy dies you'll find another person to
hate because that is that is the
response right so the body is is the
animal it's been conditioned a certain
way and it's and if it's been doing
something and feeling something for an
extended period of time there's a
modification of its receptor sites it's
it's needing those emotional states so
in the process of
change just be ready because you're
going to feel uncomfortable a lot of the
time now the question is do you want to
stay there so then most people think
they they don't have any control over
their emotional state they think I'm
just this way and I feel this way well
we we actually can show people that
that's not the truth that when it's the
hardest it matters the most and if
you're able to really work and train
your body like you're training
animal to stop feeling one way and start
feeling another way if you believe that
you're an eternal being let's just say
that I mean just most religions talk
about we're Eternal most sects of
thought only a few that don't whether
you're going to heaven or hell or
Nirvana or on the wheel you're pretty
much going to be around for a long time
that that moment matters so much in the
light of Eternity because that's the
moment you make up your mind to no
longer be defined by your past why are
you being defined by your past because
emotions are a record of the past and so
then if you're feeling that emotion your
body is believing it's back in that same
experience of the past so the more
knowledge that we have and
understanding that
justified valid or not those emotions
are hurting no other person but you
because the long-term effects of living
by those emotional states those survival
states are actually down regulating
genes and creating diseases sooner or
later you're going to have to ask
yourself is this loving to myself and
forgiveness is just when you overcome
the emotion you take your attention off
that person or that problem and you're
you're freeing yourself and you're
freeing them so people do the best with
what they think is available that's my
belief and if you're unaware that you
can control your emotional states you'll
rely on something outside of you to do
that whether it's a computer game
whether it's a Netflix show whether it's
a drug whatever whatever it is that you
need to make that feeling Go away You're
dependent on your outer world and I
think that's a hypnosis that's a
conditioning teach people that you can
actually regulate and change your
emotional states you give them the tools
to literally step into a new future so
that process of course is extremely
uncomfortable and the question is how
long are you going to stay in that
emotional state and 50% of the story
that most people tell about that past
experience isn't even the truth CU
they're making things up and they're
doing that so that they can justify why
they haven't changed since some past
event most people reach a point in their
life where they reach crisis or disease
or diagnosis or loss or betrayal where
they finally go gosh I it's time to
change I think change is an ongoing
process and the more we change the more
we should see evidence in our life that
makes it exciting yeah and I I think
you're right that I I've thought about
this for a while that I feel most people
know that they want to change and most
people know what they want to change but
they still struggle to make a change and
so I found that we don't often have a
values crisis we have a habits crisis
because people don't how how to
reprogram their habits and they've
started to assume that the way they feel
is who they are and I wonder how you
think about this because I think we're
living at a time where what you just
said is like you either kind of find a
way to numb your feelings so you're
turning towards something external to
numb how you feel or today we're being
told well feel every feeling and emotion
completely and then often we don't kind
of get to the reprogramming phase so I
guess how do you know how how long to
take a feeling seriously effectively and
assessing it before you kind of take
action on it feelings and emotions are
the end product of past experiences and
we can remember experiences better
because we can remember how they feel
the stronger the emotion we have to some
experience in our life the more altered
we are inside of us the more the brain
freezes a frame and takes a snapshot and
that's called a long-term memory that
that image is being bossed
neurologically in the brain so then what
most people don't know is that every
time they remember that event that
trauma that betrayal that loss whatever
it is they're producing producing the
same chemistry in their brain and body
as if the event is occurring so what
happens over time is that conditioning
process conditions the body to literally
live in the past so if a person is
living by the same familiar feeling
every single day whether it's guilt or
unworthiness or pain or suffering or
victimization or depression or whatever
it is it's so important for them to come
right up against that emotional state
because they're coming up against the
known the question fundamentally becomes
for that person is it possible then to
feel a different feeling now if you
cannot feel a different feeling other
than the feeling that you're used to
feeling it should tell you volumes about
that feeling because it's going to
influence your very same thoughts so the
research that we've done over and over
again is that the the only way you're
actually going to reprogram your brain
to work in your favor is you got to
learn how to regulate your brain waves
and you know this of course beta
brainwave patterns are thinking brain
wve patterns it's the analytical mind
it's our critical facilities the we're
in beta right now we're aware of our
bodies we're aware of the environment
we're aware of time the neocortex is
switched on it's what plugs us into
three-dimensional reality it's the seat
of the autobiographical self there's a
lot of circuits in there from things
you've learned intellectually and things
you've experienced in your life so for
the most part it's a repository of the
past right and so 90% of those thoughts
that we think being the same thoughts as
the day before tend to become like
automatic programs and they become more
subconscious or more unconscious so in
order for us to begin to change those
programs we got to get into the
operating system and only way we do that
is we got to slow our brain waves down
in that thinking neocortex the challenge
for most people is they have so many
demands in their
life they have so many emotional resp
responses to circumstances in their life
that they're living in a state of stress
and living in a state of survival and a
state of stress and survival You Don't
Close Your Eyes you got to keep your eye
on the ball you got to keep your
attention on the outer environment so uh
their brains tend to work in a higher
brain wave pattern a mid-range or high
level beta brain wave pattern that's
like driving your sports car in first
gear it's it's a lot of energy for the
brain so so learning how to regulate and
slow your brain waves down is something
that we've been very very interested and
when you teach people how to do that it
could become a skill and uh when the
brain starts to relax and it moves into
less of that chatter that takes place in
your brain and more of kind of an
imaginary State the brain sees in
pictures and images it's more creative
we're moving into that Alpha state so
now the door between the conscious mind
and the subconscious mind opens up as we
get beyond our analytical mind and our
analytical mind is actually what
separates the conscious mind from the
subconscious mind so as you slow your
brain waves down you get into Alpha
you're entering the operating system and
that's where you can rewrite a new
program that's where you can rehearse a
new script that's where you can begin to
plan your behaviors in a in a in an
intentional way if you if you can't
change your brain waves then it's like
your computer running a mck with all of
those programs and you yelling at it
telling it to stop you're not in the
operating system some people can get to
the point where they're so
relaxed that the body's in a light sleep
and yet they're conscious and awake and
now they're in this Theta brain wave
pattern and in Theta that's a hypnotic
State we're very suggestible to our
thoughts we're very suggestible to
information in that state and that state
then is where we see the most change
take place and so the person can
literally change from the inside out
when they learn how to get into the
operating system you've just hit the net
on the head with the constant experience
everyone has to think again going back
to what I was saying that when we're
trying to make a change the thing that
blocks us from making the change is
usually stress if I'm trying to be a
kind loving compassionate person but I'm
stressed out I'm likelier to be Snappy
and rude and condescending if I'm trying
to be healthier in my diet but I'm
stressed out or burnt out I'm going to
reach for the sugary food or the carbs
and the fat like that doesn't come from
anything else but stress to take away
the feeling to take away the feeling
take away the feeling right so let's get
real clear because I think it's
important for people to understand when
we're talking about stress and we're
talking about living in survival it's so
important to name those
emotions because anger and frustration
and control and hatred and envy and
jealousy and insecurity and unworthiness
and guilt and shame and suffering and
depression those are all derived those
are emotions that are D derived from the
hormones of stress and psychology calls
those normal states of Consciousness
those are Altered States Of
Consciousness because in stress the
physiology is that we're knocked out of
homeostasis we're knocked out of balance
because we perceiving some threat some
danger some emergency and so the
stronger the emotion you feel to
whatever stressor there is in your life
the more you pay attention to it and so
in time then you have to keep your
attention on all the important elements
in your life so you sit down to do a
meditation and when you're living in
stress and you're living in survival
there's only three things that are
important in that moment your attention
is on your body because you got to
preserve it your attention is on
something in your environment and what's
in your environment people objects
things places and you're very
preoccupied with time and when you're in
stress and you're in
survival the brain goes onto a default
mode and it's naturally trying to
predict the next next moment based on
what it's learned in the past and so as
you always try to forecast the future
based on your memory of the past you
can't be in the present moment right so
and yet our our model of change what we
discovered is that the only way a person
can change is when they get beyond their
body they get beyond all the elements of
their environment and they get beyond
that predictable Fusion familiar past
and they sink into the present moment
which is the unknown so if you can't do
that that because of the hormones of
stress most people will sit down and
they'll say okay I'm going to close my
eyes I'm going to start this process
where I'm going to rehearse how I'm
going to be today and they start
thinking about their cell phone they
start thinking about all their emails
and they start thinking I can't meditate
there's something wrong with me it's my
mother's fault you know and they
actually believe that thought to be the
truth and then they get up and they they
actually reaffirm it and they say I
can't meditate
now I can tell you that if you are
willing to see that
thought is just a thought in your brain
and you're curious what's on the other
side of that thought yeah you're going
to feel
uncomfortable but if you had some tools
and skills to apply and you were able to
take your attention off your cell phone
and settle your body back down into the
present moment that would be a victory
and then your body would say come on you
got to feel a little frustration now you
got to be impatient you got to be
judgmental come on that's what you
always think that's how you always feel
and you like an
animal you settle the body back down
into the present moment and you tell it
it's no longer the mind that you're the
mind that's a victory then the body says
uh hey dude you're super busy you got a
lot of things to do you got a lot of
people to see you got a lot of places to
go you got a lot of things to do and
you've been doing the same thing every
day your body is going to want to get up
and do something you're going to want to
quit cuz your brain's telling you that
you can't do this if you had the
awareness to settle the body back down
into the present moment you would be
executing a will that's greater than the
program because most people lose their
free will to those programs and it's
that
tedium in the beginning that is an
uncompromising will where you keep
training the animal to stay to take all
of its attention off the environment to
get beyond all the Cravings the feelings
the habits of the body the drives of the
body and catch yourself defaulting to
that predictable future bringing the
body back into the present moment
siphoning energy back your attention
into the past based on those familiar
emotions of the past we've discovered
that if you're willing to do that for
just a few days you could actually
liberate an enormous amount of energy
from your body you go from particle to
wave from matter to energy and you're
literally transmuting those limited
emotions
into elevated emotions and something
really beautiful happens if you're
willing to fire The Crucible and sit
through that long enough all of these
emotions move that energy moves right up
into the heart and the person starts
falling in love with life they start
feeling this state of gratitude this
gratefulness to be alive this inevitable
word of relaxed and awake M and
something really magical happens when
we've discovered uh this little simple
thing when that energy makes it to the
heart there's only one place it wants to
go and it goes straight to the brain so
the person starts relaxing into their
heart when they feel this feeling and
the more they relax into the heart the
more their brain all of a sudden starts
becoming aroused and they start going
into these elevated gamma brain wave
patter patter now gamma is not
unconscious gamma is actually
superconscious it's actually super aware
you're outside the program now so when
that occurs and the Brain goes into
gamma brain wave patterns what we
discovered is not it's not a little
gamma it's not a lot of gamma it's not a
whole lot of gamma it's a supernatural
amount of gamma and we start seeing
these brain waves where we see Theta
start carrying Alpha Alpha and Alpha
starts resonating with beta and beta
starts creating High beta and high beta
starts creating gamma and you see these
standing waves of brain coherence
happening and the person feels so
amazing that they don't want the moment
to end and so we see when they put their
attention on their heart like like
filling a gas tank we see on the gauge
of the on the scan this very low
frequency start rising in the heart the
the energy that's the heart uses to to
function actually goes up because
they're placing their attention there
and where they Place their attention is
where they Place their energy then you
see the parasympathetic nervous system
come up with it that's the nervous
system of
relaxation and then we see it kind of
drop and we see the sympathetic nervous
system starting to go up and now
sympathetic regulation is an arousal
right but the arousal isn't
fear the arousal isn't ha hat or
aggression the arousal isn't pain that's
the arousal created from survival
there's only one other arousal and
that's ecstasy that's Bliss and the
person all of a sudden feels connected
to something greater now here's the
beauty we we we could see people do this
in 15 minutes the most important
takeaway around all of this is that
feeling that they're feeling is not
coming from anywhere outside of them no
person's doing that no wardrobe change
is doing that no sports card no football
game nothing is doing it to them it's
actually coming from within that is the
moment they stop looking for it outside
of them and the love affair begins and
so when we start feeling these elevated
emotions these more selfless emotions
it's not like you have to try to forgive
it actually is the side effect of you
changing your emotional state you no
longer want uh because you feel so whole
how could you want anything so we we we
started interviewing people when they
had these moments and and they had such
an incredible amount of love that they
felt their we measure their oxytocin
levels their love chemicals very
elevated uh the the amount of gamma in
terms of coherence was 200 300 400
standard deviations outside of normal in
coherent gamma now three standard
deviations outside of normal in gamma is
about 2% of the population 200 300 4 a
lot of energy in the brain so the brain
all of a sudden is receiving an enormous
amount of energy so we've discovered
relaxed in the heart and awaken the
brain and that process of transformation
is your willingness to sit past that
thought past that emotion and keep
training the animal and sooner or later
you can re recondition it to a new mind
and the system for this new your mind in
this journey that you're talking about
is meditation like this is coming
through a meditative practice is that
similar to the breath work meditation
practice that you just did research on
or is that totally separate these wow
okay yes so um our weeklong events are
uh a full immersion experience we've
done the largest studies on meditation
that have ever been done just because we
have a community of 1,00 people that
come to an event that are going to be
getting up at the same time doing the
same thing uh pretty much eating making
the same food choices and pretty much a
big laboratory right and so our
discoveries in working with 1,00 people
in in measuring brain
waves be their brain function before and
after the event um measuring their gene
expression before and after the event
we're measuring uh 2,882 metabolites in
their blood we're measuring DNA
expression we're measuring urine we're
measuring saliva we're measuring the
energy of the room we're measuring
everything and meditation in a sense
that it's not in the traditional way um
what we do is we look at what really
works you know we're actually looking to
say well that's something that we can
actually see a change in so we teach
meditation three ways to become familiar
with your old self and to become
familiar with your new self that's what
the word meditation means
familiarization to become familiar with
so we use that model for change so slow
your brain waves down and get beyond
your analytical mind these meditation
and you teach your body how to do that
and we've discovered a formula that that
simply makes it very easy for people to
do it you practice it you'll get good at
it just like anything else you practice
so so to get beyond the analytical mind
there's another way to reprogram
ourselves and then meditation is really
about getting beyond your body or
disconnecting from your body
disconnecting from your environment and
forgetting about time and that is that
eye of the needle where we begin to make
the most significant changes so we're
data driven you know we're we're really
looking to see what it is and and when
we see uh brains respond in the same way
it helps me enormously to teach the
material better and so the more people
understand what they're doing and the
more they understand why they're doing
it the more naturally the how becomes
easier and nothing is left to conjecture
if nothing is left to Superstition or
Dogma or even in
spiritual you know traditional words
use science says the Contemporary
language to demystify that process you
need give new people numerous times to
overcome themselves and numerous times
to connect sooner or later you'll start
watching transformation right before
your eyes and so one of the cool things
that we've discovered is that we have so
much compelling data to suggest that
you're greater than you think more
powerful than you no more unlimited than
you could ever dream we have compelling
data that suggest that your nervous
system is the greatest pharmacist in the
world that it makes drugs that work
better than any drug in a drug store a
drug study is about 18 to 25% cause and
effect causality our data is between 75
and 85% cause and effect this is a
person creating their own Pharmacy of
anti-inflammatories their own Pharmacy
of anti-carcinogenic chemicals their own
Pharmacy of uh pain relievers we're
seeing this over and over again so we
have this incredible data that says that
this is no longer pseudoscience this is
the real this is really science the side
effect of a person's
transformation is has changed my belief
in what's possible I have seen people
stand on the stage with stage four
cancers that were in every single organ
in their body that metastasized and and
they have no sign of cancer in their
body and we have data that suggest that
you put the blood of an advanced
meditator and an uterine cancer cell a
pancreatic cancer
cell 70% of the mitochondrial function
in the cancer cell is diminished the
mitochondria is the energy packets of
the cell it's taking energy out of the
cancer cell works perfect with what
we're seeing with uh uh the testimonials
uh that that people are telling around
the world we've seen blind people see
we've seen deaf people hear we've seen
uh people with spinal cord injuries walk
again we we've seen uh ALS change we've
seen all kinds of unbelievable health
conditions change by a person simply
changing the way they think the way they
act and the way they feel how long have
you seen certain things lost like how
much does the practice have to continue
daily to sustain impact because I feel
that you know this isn't as you know
isn't a one-off thing and that isn't
what you're encouraging like this is the
experience of when someone's coming to a
retreat or an event they're having this
incredible experience but then do you
measure how people continue to practice
take yeah it's super important for us um
uh and of course we have mounds of data
but let's see if I can say this uh as as
clear as I possibly can when a person
has that arousal where they're feeling
that elevated emotion and their their
eyes are
closed they're in a room with 1,800
people there's music playing in the
background they're not eating they're
not smelling they're not tasting they're
not moving about and feeling on some
level they're having an inner experience
right the body is so objective that it's
literally believing it's living in a new
environment and so that elevated emotion
somehow tends to drag the body right out
of the past into the present moment so
many people with everything from eczema
to muscular distrophy when they have
those events
there's a biological change that takes
place in their body where they feel
completely differently now some people
heal all the way some people are out of
their wheelchair and they're walking
again but they're
limping and it doesn't mean it's over it
just means they made contact where they
they hid gold and so there's varying
degrees that we see we've seen
people for seven years work on a
terminal health condition took them
seven years to heal that health
condition some people it takes 2 years 3
years some people they do it in 3 months
we there's no uh predictable menu that
we can say it's this way now when people
have those more profoundly aroused
States it seems like uh their change is
much more immediate and much more
permanent uh but for the most part we
see people's response pretty dramatic
now it's also important to say that we
have seen people heal from from terminal
cancers stop feeling those elevated
emotions and return to responding to the
circumstances and conditions in their
life and return back to the same
personality the same personality is the
same personal reality and their body is
believing it's living in that same
environment and they're feeling the same
way and they're in the habit of acting
the same way and thinking the same way
and lo and behold uh the condition
returns um we've seen people heal
themselves of Parkinson's disease more
than once have one
response to some very serious event in
their life that produced a very strong
emotion and in one hour their condition
returned because they literally went
back to their old self and we've seen
that person turn around and reverse the
condition again again people do the best
with what they think is available the
person standing on the stage who we've
had numerous Physicians and researchers
stand on the stage they're the 4-minute
mile they're telling the community I'm
the example of Truth now this is no
longer philosophy this is no longer
Theory here's my scans I we had someone
with bilateral breast cancer just
recently uh no evidence of cancer in our
breasts or any lymph nodes no longer in
our liver I'm looking out at the
audience and everybody's leaning
in there's 4minute Mile and that
person's telling the truth and they're
they're telling a story and it's not
pretty it's not always uh Rosy they they
went through a lot of Dark Nights they
went through a lot of their condition
getting worse but every day they had to
show up for themselves if they stopped
showing up and doing the work they would
really not believe it was possible but
if they showed up and did the work it
means that they believe it's possible
and I think when you believe in
possibility you got to believe in
yourself mhh when you believe in
yourself you got to believe in
possibilities so it used to be a few
examples of of that now we have so many
great testimonials so many great stories
that now people it's becoming infectious
just like a virus or any bacteria
becomes infectious now health and
wellness becomes as infectious as
disease and you get a community of
people uh starting to break through and
you start seeing these changes where
people stand on the stage invariably
you're going to see a very strong shift
in Consciousness and Consciousness is
awareness and if you're unaware that you
could actually heal yourself
you'll make the same Choice once you see
it uh I think it starts be creating a
brush fire and and and that's really the
exciting part so we've seeing so many
great testimonials that are undeniably
great stories of transformation and many
many of those people still no longer
have their eczema still no longer have
their Parkinson still no longer have
their cancer yeah since since the last
time we spoke I know your team of
research has went and did some work I
wanted to ask you some questions about
this you did some research on the impact
of one minute breath work how does this
impact our heart rate variability and
how does HIV impact our anxiety let's
talk about heart rate variability
because it's an important thing so so
your brain is trying to control and
predict everything that's taking place
in your life because stress is actually
created when you can predict something
you can control something or you have
the perception that something's going to
get worse okay so you switch on that
primitive nervous system the fight ORF
flight nervous system and as you shift
your attention from one person to
another person to another thing to
another place to another problem every
one of those different elements has a
neurological Network in your brain so
the arousal of the hormones to say pay
attention there's danger as you start
shifting your attention to each one of
these elements that have neurological
networks in your brain your brain starts
firing very
incoherently and in fact you could
actually by thinking about your problems
turn on the stress response just by
thought alone and that's what most
people do so now there you are you're
sitting in traffic
the heart is pumping because it's trying
to get blood to the extremities because
A Primitive system switching on saying
that there's there's a predator there's
danger and the heart is beating against
closed arteries and the Heart starts
beating out of rhythm it starts beating
out of order and it starts beating very
incoherently so when you have
incoherence in the brain and you have
incoherence in the heart when waves are
incoherent when they intersect with each
other they cancel each other out and
when they cancel each other out that's
less energy in the brain if there's less
energy in the brain you're going to
default to some of those reflexive
systems If energy is diminished in the
heart you're not going to trust you're
not going to be vulnerable You're not
going to want to commune you're not not
going to want to connect you're not
going to want to feel grateful it's not
a time to feel any of those things it's
time to run fight and hide okay so most
people say okay well it to I had a
stressful day I was stressed out the
entire day and at the end of the day
they turn on the TV and they they
relax the important thing to re realize
is that if you're relying on something
outside of you to change that emotional
state you'll become dependent on it so
is it possible then to begin to create
more coherence in the brain and the answ
is yes because when you're under the gun
of those chemicals of survival you're
narrowing your focus on the cost you
hear something moving in the bushes you
freeze and you narrow your focus and
it's that narrowing of focus that tends
be obsessive when we're in stress we
overthink things we overanalyze that
actually we've discovered makes the
brain worse it actually makes the heart
regulate more out of order so then we
said okay if the brain is narrowing its
focus and it's becoming overattentive
what if we teach it how to do something
else what if we teach it how to broaden
its focus and instead of focusing on
something material or something known
just open up and focus on nothing in the
act of broad the focus actually cause a
person to stop thinking and doing and
start sensing and feeling is actually
what starts to slow their brain waves
down the redundancy of Shifting your
attention from one person to another
person to another problem to another
thing causes the brain to fire like a
lightning storm in the clouds very
incoherently so as you start to open
your awareness and sense nothing we've
we've seen this thousands of
times those different networks that are
firing out of order start to synchronize
and what sinks in the brain links in the
brain and the Brain be becomes more
orderly it starts to become more
coherent if you could learn how to rest
your attention in your heart and where
you place your attention is where you
place your
energy regulate your breath start
slowing your breathing down even if you
did it for one minute you could actually
begin to change your brain waves MH and
you could actually cause your heart to
start functioning more regulation and
more or order
if you said okay I'm going to work with
my body and I'm going to start breathing
and I'm going to start feeling emotions
that I do want to feel yes it may take
you a few minutes to get there but if
you keep practicing it over and over
again the heart starts producing a very
profound signal it starts to produce an
external magnetic field it's it's it's
measurable so now you have a coherent
brain which means you can get very
intentional and you have a coherent
heart which means you can feel the
emotions of your future before it
happens somehow you have this
broadcasting of this wi-fi signal uh and
the Brain tends to be electrical in
nature so it's sends out an electrical
charge into the field the heart is the
magnetic charge it's what draws things
to us it's the it's the magnetic field
and now you actually by changing the way
you think and the way you feel you're
changing the signal in the field then if
you're able to maintain that state for
an extended period of time I say
something magical is going to happen in
your life something unusual some unknown
experience is going to occur if you keep
thinking the same way and feeling the
same way your life should stay the same
so we do one minute practices we do five
minute practices we do 30 minute
practices we want to get so good at
doing it with our eyes closed
that we can do it with our eyes open
yeah now I when I hear that like I've
had personal genuine experience of that
where I've done that when I've had when
I'm having a moment where I'm feeling
anxious or I'm feeling stressed or you
know something unpredictable has
happened and I feel that change in my
heart rate and I notice my breathing
change I notice it become more shallow I
notice it become more random I know that
when I'm practicing breath work I'm able
to come back to Stillness I'm able to
come back to that sense of balance and
I'm able to actually approach the issue
at hand with more clarity with more
connectedness and a feeling of
confidence but when someone else who may
not have had that experience yet or may
not be trained in that they're just
thinking well how do I solve the problem
right like they're they're listening to
me and you're going well but I can't
because I just I need to solve this
problem like you're saying like I'm
going to be 30 minutes late for a job
interview or I just had an argument with
my partner this morning and I've got a
big presentation this morning as well at
work now I'm stressed about it because
I'm thinking about that or my kid just
had got yeah I had to rush into hospital
and now I'm late like I guess when
you're looking at it from a very human
point of view it's really hard to
understand the value in this what do you
say to anyone who's thinking and feeling
that way uh no I think it's I think it's
a reasonable conversation I mean um uh
sometimes we have to be super aroused uh
and sometimes we really have to pay
attention and sometimes there are
threats and dangers where that primitive
nervous system actually works in our
favor and and that's the emergency
system but you got to also realize that
you only have a certain amount of energy
and if you're living in emergency mode
for an extended period of time there's
no energy for growth and repair there's
no energy for long-term building
projects and so when it's
needed uh and you have to outrun the
Predator you go you don't sit and try to
make friends with a predator we're not
that
good you run right the problem is if
keep that alarm system switched on all
the time it gets very addictive it's a
great on it's gets very addictive right
and so I've looked at people's brain
scans uh and watch their brain get worse
in the early days and tap them on the
head and say what were you doing in
there 100% of the time they were
analyzing the problems in their life
within that disturbing emotion and if an
emotion is a record of the past and they
can't think greater than how they feel
they're thinking in the past there's no
no solution there cross the river get
beyond the emotion and you'll see
possibility because you're no longer in
the box of that emotional state now
that's so much easier said than done
because you're going
against thousands of years of
programming of living in survival I mean
200 years ago it wasn't easy being human
I mean we're in survival all the time I
me famine you know every disease I mean
it was it was hard to be human and so we
have to lay down the very thing we used
our whole life to get what we want for
something greater to occur and it goes
against thousands of years of
programming it's not something that you
get good at doing once you got to keep
practicing so so so you really have two
ways to look at it if you're if you're
living in stress and you're living in
survival and that system is switched on
then everything will be a threat
everything will be a danger everything
will be a reason to rush to be impatient
to be frustrated to be judgmental
because that's that's the Consciousness
that's the emotion we're living by so
now you you have a a problem with a
co-worker you have a problem with your
partner whatever it is that you use as
an example and you have to give a
presentation now now you really have one
of two choices either be
victimized by those conditions in your
life and you stay in that emotional
state and I'll say to you Jay why are
you that way well I'm this way because
of this person the circumstance the
person or circumstan is controlling the
way I feel and the way I think think
anything that controls the way I feel
and the way I think I'm victim to right
okay or I actually can be a Creator now
okay so when it's the hardest it matters
the most okay so there's going to be a
story a valid story that's going to go
along with those emotions that you're
going to have to give up that you can
address at another time from a different
state if you're altered in that state
and you say something you do something
you write the email you send the text
you'll always regret it you'll always
say should have never said that I should
have never done that we got to learn
that we're in an altered state at that
time so it's only one of two choices you
either stay there the whole day and tell
everybody that story or you say okay let
me take a moment remember that this is
the experiment called life okay let me
practice getting relaxed in my heart let
me slow the animal down let me practice
that take a few minutes now let me
breathe let me get my state back let me
change everything okay let me remember
who I am who I want to be when I open my
eyes and let me practice that again now
even if you had to do that 10 times in
one day I would say it was a day worth
living I would say it was a day worth
living and when we do walking
meditations uh in our our Retreats we're
doing walking meditations so you can
practice doing it with your eyes open
like if you're going to be relaxed in
your heart and awake in your brain and
you can do it with your eyes closed okay
let's take it out for a test drive yeah
let me open my eyes let me pay a little
bit more attention to my inner World let
me practice feeling this feeling let me
practice feeling this way and let my
brain do what it does let me get defined
let me change my physiology let me
change my state let me walk as the
healed person let me walk as the
Abundant person let me walk as if my
prayers are answered let me walk in this
state if I keep practicing that over and
over it's going to become a habit right
yeah so so we hit it as many ways as we
can we have at least seven or eight
different breaths that we do because we
see how they all work in the
brain we have all kinds of meditations
we have sitting meditations we have
standing and walking meditations we have
laying down meditations because we want
you to be able to do it with your eyes
open with your eyes closed standing
walking any way you can so that you
don't default and return back to that
person now if you do default you didn't
fail that's a program you just went
unconscious and how many times do we
have to forget until we stop forgetting
and start remembering that's the moment
of change no one no one cares how many
times you fell off the bicycle if you
ride the bicycle now you ride the bike
so it's it's the constant process uh
every single day and I think that
sometimes we look for evidence in our
life and it hasn't happened and I think
it's so important that we still show up
yeah yeah because that's the that's
where you're changing the most and when
you get to that point where you could
care less if it happens or not because
you feel so happy so grateful for who
you are get ready because your life is
going to begin to change in magical ways
I'm so proud of our community not
because they do the work every day not
because they're trying to be good or
please anybody they do it because they
don't want the magic yeah to really end
the experiment is too good is they don't
they're going to continue to be a
Creator in their life so then when they
change the way they feel and the way
they think and they start seeing
evidence in their life they're going to
remember what they did inside of them to
produce that outcome and they're going
to believe their creator of their life
unless are the victim of their life and
that's empowerment yeah and you can't
take that away from anybody you can't
tell me now you're too sick to do that
you can't tell me you're too old to do
that you can't tell me you had a
horrible past you're too out of shape
you can't even tell me that you never
meditated before because we have people
that come they know nothing they get
dragged by somebody and they have the
most profound experience because they're
not expecting anything and we have data
to suggest that when you don't expect
anything you're going to have a profound
moment so everybody can do it there's
nobody that's so special to be excluded
from this process and we have had people
that have had brutal p s with abuse with
trauma we we've seen Navy Seals and
prisoners with horrible horrible
memories uh literally transform
literally transform uh in seven days and
I could say right now that you make the
time every single day to decide who
you're going to present to the world and
you get up as that person you're going
to fall a lot of times but sooner or
later once you start to change it's
pretty hard to go back yeah I think we
so easily forget that anything that
we've achieved today any place we've got
to was a commitment to refining the
process it was a disciplined effort to
make a tiny Improvement on something
else when you give the cycle example the
bike example the idea that you got back
up and you maybe changed one thing you
knew to shift your balance differently
you knew to Pedal at a different pace
like you tried these different things
and it's what you're saying that it's an
experiment if we keep trying the same
thing we get the same result but the
point that I Lov that you brought up to
that answer was the idea that sometimes
you do need to be an emergency but don't
make emergency a habit exactly and I
think that's where most of us Veer off
on the wrong path I was asked recently
anyone who knows me today knows that I'm
a hardworking productive high
performance type of individual I live a
very scheduled life and a and a
disciplined life and the biggest
question I get around the holidays is J
are you able to switch off and I always
go back and give the credit to my to my
monk training and say I switch off
immediately uh as soon as I'm on the
flight home I was I I remember before
Christmas I was I was getting on a
flight home back to London and I was off
the moment I stepped onto the flight and
it was because I was it's not because
I'm special or because I'm unique or I
have superpowers it's because I've
simply done what you said where it's
I've trained myself to always be present
and so if I'm really present in my work
like I am with you now that when I'm on
the plane I'm just present and I know
that it's time to switch off and so I I
think the idea that our presence bleeds
and our lack of presence bleeds and it's
not that you can selectively be in
emergency here and not in emergency here
the state you're feeling is going to
spread across your whole life like I
know a lot of people who are high
performance and and I've had to be
mindful of this as well it's like their
high performance at work but then they
take that high performance and they give
it to their family and now their family
is getting a high performance dad and
they don't want that they just want
their dad or they want their mom and so
how do we develop that I guess that's a
highly trained ability is is what you're
saying is we get the ability then to say
okay I know when to use this and when
not to that's that's a more heightened
State yeah I mean look there's no
there's there's nothing wrong with with
the hormones of stress I mean that's the
only way we could actually survive we're
we're part human part animal part Divine
I mean we have two things that work here
I I think the biggest challenge for a
lot of people and 70% of the time people
are living in that state of survival
living in that state of stress the more
you understand what that actually does
to you the more you can make better
choices on how long you actually do want
to stay there here's an example many
people who are changing a health
condition in our work they start to do
the work they start noticing I'm
sleeping better uh I have less pain
uh I got my appetite back I feel like I
have more energy they start noticing
these subtle subjective changes they go
to their doctor uh and their their scans
still show that they have their health
condition so they're noticing a change
but they're not healed all the way now
they don't say it didn't work they say
what is it about me that I still have to
change in order to heal what thought
what Behavior what emotion so they're
work in progress right many of those
people discover that they have one real
good hour of meditation where they feel
connected they feel like their heart is
opening up they feel like their brain is
coherent they feel really great they
don't want the moment to end and then
they spend 15 or 16 hours of their day
back in a program rushing around back in
their emotional states responding and
reacting and they realize that how could
one hour of an elevated State way
against 15 or 16 hours of my response to
everyone and everything in my life
emotionally is derived from those
familiar emotions of fear or anger or
hatred or or pain or suffering whatever
okay so now this is where the practicum
actually goes to the next level because
they're no longer just sitting down and
rehearsing who they want to be they're
actually rehearsing for their life
they're saying okay when I see that
person when I'm in that circumstance I
can't go unconscious and feel this
emotion and I can't go unconscious and
say these things or act this way how am
I going to act what would love do what
would greatness look like they don't
know they read about it they get more
information and they're building this
model and now all of a sudden the
response to people to circumstances the
problems in their life are changing
that's because they're changing then
they notice that their health condition
starts to improve a little bit more now
now they don't say how come my
Alzheimer's or my Parkinson's or my ALS
has been healed they're saying how much
more can I open my heart in my day and
feel this with my eyes open all day long
if I understand that if I live by these
emotions I'm signaling genes ahead of
the environment oh I'm going to stay in
this state because it's this emotional
state that is actually going to heal me
so I got to remember this feeling got to
remember this feeling got to remember
this feeling and now they're no longer
trying to remember the Feeling Just for
any other reason but because I want to
remember the feeling when they're with
their eyes open now it's their
understanding the more that they change
the more that their health changes and
and and you can have the best diet and
you could do the best exercise and you
could be really rigid in the food
choices and vitamins and minerals uh and
keep your body chemically balanced and
physically balanced but if you're not
emotionally balanced and you're
constantly in that fight ORF flight
system stress is when your body's
knocked out of homeostasis the stress is
when your brain and body are knocked out
of balance so so you you could have all
those things working for you but if you
are living in fear or you're controlling
and you're rigid and you're
perfectionist and you're hard on
yourself it's going to make sense that
that is going to have to change in order
for you to change right and so people
start getting they start getting it I
that's the only way I'm going to change
if I don't change it's not going to
change yeah one of my favorite things as
a practical exercise I ever did was I
literally had scripts and I mean
handwritten like I wrote scripts for how
I wanted to feel when I experienced ego
or envy and so for for every
emotional challenge I had something that
I thought was an unhealthy thought I
literally had like pages and pages and
pages of scripts that were built up from
research that were built up from
spiritual literature that were built up
from science whatever it may be of what
did I want to be able to say to myself
when this thought or that thought came
up and it sounds so basic but it really
does rewire your thoughts when now all I
can think of is that script and I need
to update that script regularly sure
that's a good point I mean I mean I'm
constantly yeah it's not once I'm
constantly I mean I mean 95% of Who We
Are by the time middle AG is a set of
unconscious thoughts behaviors and
emotions I mean those are beliefs and
perceptions that we have about ourselves
in our lives so I mean this is a never-
ending process of self-discovery I mean
there's always challenges that you'll
have in your life that are going to
initiate you into becoming conscious of
what you're unconscious to and you got
to meet those challenges from a greater
level of Consciousness than the
Consciousness that's created and you if
you don't your response in the way you
feel and the way you think being the
same and if you believe that how you
think and how you feel creates your life
if you don't change the way you think
and the way you feel your life's going
to stay the same because you're the same
I mean that's the way it works so
fundamentally it's so important for
people to understand that it is actually
possible to change it really is possible
it is yeah it I I love you keep
repeating that because it's I think
that's the hardest part where you've
just again the the broken record is I
can't change nothing will change and not
realizing that it's just a set of habits
it's just a set of routines that you've
adopted as your reality and you're going
to be uncomfortable so get used to it
and so you could either stay
uncomfortable or you could actually say
how do I want to feel let me instead of
memorizing this emotion let me memorize
this emotion let me open my heart when
it's goes against everything that been
taught and programmed to do I mean and
and that's really when it really begins
to matter the most so it's it's really
an exciting time and and I'm so happy to
see that people are wrapping their minds
around all of this and doing it you know
doing it for themselves absolutely
absolutely have you found a difference
and I want to get a bit more technical
here have you found a difference between
meditation with bre breath work and
without breath work because I know you
do both and and what do you find is the
usefulness and benefits of either so we
do so many different types of breath
breath for so many different types of
reasons the breath that we were talking
about with Inspire pulling the mind out
of the body we do that breath to take
that creative life force that sits at
the base of the spine that that energy
that can create another another life
form the energy we use to digest a meal
the energy that we use to run from a
predator we're taking all that energy
that's stored in the body emotionally
and we're pulling that energy back up
into the brain If you practice this
breath repeatedly
there will be a release of energy into
the brain we have the data to show that
you're going to have a lot more energy
in your brain you're going to be way
more coherent in your brain and you're
going to be more conscious right and so
why is that important why because when
you regulate your brain waves we don't
want you to fall asleep we want you to
actually be really relaxed and awake at
the same time so we do this one breath
called pulling the mind out of the body
that's the Inspire Series where we're
taking all that Creative Energy and
we're we're with the breath pulling the
energy right up to a specific area the
brain when you do that properly your
brain will go into an altered state
that's the reason why we do it then we
do all kinds of other breathing like
breathing to change the heart uh Rhythm
uh sometimes when we're doing a laying
down breath uh when we're practicing
getting into that mystical State uh just
when the audience is just starting to
move into a slower brain wave state
we'll do a very forced inhalation
exhalation inhalation over and over
again like a hiker's breath only so that
the person feels euphoric and so
euphoric that they don't want to fall
asleep and they'll move into a slower
brain wave pattern and the door between
the conscious mind and the subconscious
mind opens and many times there's a
mystical experience waiting for that
person uh that's transcendental so so we
do all kinds of different breathing uh
techniques because we have different
intentions behind each one of them if
people want to dive into those where
where should they go if they want to
kind of grab some of those techniques or
get access are they only at the events
uh there's an online course that we
offer called the progressive Workshop
great um in the Progressive Workshop we
teach a few of those breaths and if you
come to a weeklong event you'll have an
opportunity to do all of them and we
start at 6:00 in the morning we finish
at I don't know Cancun the last one we
did I think we finished at 8 or 8:30
every night it was just a great group of
people and and uh we go seven days and
and some mornings are a little earlier
but uh you got a lot of practice you got
a lot of tools uh so by the time you
leave you can you can use them in your
life yeah that's amazing yeah for anyone
who can't obviously get to the live
event
then the online course will be helpful
but if you can go to one and I think I
think there's some good descriptions
also in in becoming Supernatural my last
book where we break it all down uh and
then there's some tutorials that we have
on our website to help you with some of
the breathing yeah I love that Joe is
there anything I haven't asked you about
today or anything that's on your mind
and heart that you really want to share
with everyone or something you've been
working on or or anything you feel
compelled to share gosh we uh we covered
a lot we we've covered a lot I we're
doing some really cool research with
random Avent generators and random event
generators are sophisticated coin tosses
you know if you the more you toss a coin
the more you're going to get 50/50 heads
heads or tails right so this machine
generates program machine generates um
about a th tosses in a second so you're
looking at a very very sophisticated
machine and if you run it for 30 minutes
you're going to see in time an equal
number of ones or zeros or heads or
tails and you're going to see the
straight line when you get a group of
people together with brain coherence and
heart coherence they're emitting a field
and when we do healings in our
events 100% of the time when we do those
healings those random event generators
have dramatic SKS to show that random
events become less random and more
intentional and it's Collective networks
of observers that determine reality and
it's not the number of people it's not
the amount of energy because it could be
entropic it's the most coherent energy
and we're causing a machine that's
programmed to behave in a very very
different way and I think that idea of
community of people coming together when
everybody else is in fear uh to show
courage when everybody else is in pain
uh to show compassion when everybody
else is in anger or hatred that to show
love I mean I think
by Nature as human beings I think we are
wired to give to connect to commune to
take care of one another to heal one
another to shine for one another and and
our data is so exciting to to actually
support that theorem yeah I love that
you brought that up and I'm that's you
know that's very macro and big as well
but also micro in that you're you're
measuring people's daily experience I
think you know when I think about
families who live together or couples or
Partners or or whoever you may be you
know when you're sleeping together when
you're waking up together at the same
time when you're sitting for meals
together when you know we've realized
and we know that the science shows that
your heart rate sink up like your
heartbeats sink up when you're with
someone and I think it's really
interesting because I think today in our
individualistic world there's a big
desire to do things at our own time when
we want how we want but if you're truly
trying to build a relationship with
someone else or build community there's
so much to be said for doing these basic
practices at the same time together
right it's really hard to be in
community when you're in
survival uh because survival makes us
put our attention on ourselves right uh
and I I think that when people are not
living in survival when they're out of
survival our nature really is community
is is culture is connection and it
starts with the self then it starts with
our closest relationships and builds out
from there and I I think that's a a a
healthy model you know for the for the
world I mean when you're working on
yourself and I'm working on myself and
I'm okay with me and you're okay with
you we're going to be okay with
everybody you know and I think when
we're not okay with ourselves uh that's
when uh it gets complicated that's
amazing everyone who's listening and
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listen to again and again and again
because you have to realize that the
first time you hear it there may be some
inspiration there may be some insight
but the second time that repetition is
going to help you actually apply rewire
and reconfigure so make sure you repeat
listen and make sure you share this with
a friend as well so you can discuss it
talk about it put it into your own
language and your vocabulary that's such
an important part of putting this into
practice as well uh Joe ever thank you
so much for making the time and effort I
know that you've always got
unpredictable things happening in your
life like this morning but you chose to
be here and uh thank you so much for
being here I really appreciate it thank
you Jay thank you for having me thank
you if you love this episode you'll
enjoy my interview with Dr Daniel aan on
how to change your life by changing your
brain you want a drip dopamine don't
dump it because when you dump it with
the fries and the alcohol the porn you
don't have much left and so so then you
have to
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