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Joe Dispenza: You've Been Programmed To Stay BROKE, STUCK & EXHAUSTED - Here's How To Break It!

By Jay Shetty Podcast

Summary

## Key takeaways - **Repetitive thoughts become hardwired beliefs**: Thinking the same thoughts repeatedly wires neural pathways, making them automatic and unconscious. To change, you must become conscious of these unconscious beliefs, as they dictate your choices, behaviors, and experiences. [01:11], [01:23] - **Emotions condition the body to relive the past**: Emotions are a record of past experiences. When you feel an emotion, your body believes it's reliving that experience, conditioning it to live in the past and perpetuating a cycle of familiar feelings and thoughts. [02:34], [05:01] - **Mental rehearsal rewires the brain for future success**: Imagining yourself acting and feeling in a desired future scenario creates neural pathways that the brain perceives as real. Consistent mental rehearsal helps align your behaviors with your intentions. [06:35], [06:51] - **Elevated emotions signal genes before the environment**: By feeling elevated emotions associated with a desired future, your body believes it's already in that future. This signals genes ahead of environmental changes, initiating transformation from within. [07:35], [08:03] - **Meditation means becoming familiar with your new self**: The word 'meditation' means 'to become familiar.' By consciously practicing new thoughts and emotions, you become familiar with your desired future self, reconditioning your body to a new mind. [08:12], [08:21] - **Stress narrows focus, hindering change and growth**: When under stress, the brain narrows its focus on survival, making it harder to access the present moment or engage in growth. This chronic state depletes energy needed for repair and long-term projects. [25:01], [25:16]

Topics Covered

  • Your repetitive thoughts hardwire your reality.
  • Your body craves familiar negative emotions.
  • Mentally rehearse your future to rewire your brain.
  • Slow your brainwaves to reprogram your subconscious.
  • Coherent heart and brain manifest new realities.

Full Transcript

most people lose their free will to

those programs and it's that

uncompromising will where you keep

training the animal to stay to get

beyond all the Cravings the feelings the

habits of the body and catch yourself

the bestselling author and host the

number one Health and Wellness podcast

on purpose with J

shett I think the most beautiful and

powerful thing in the world is a

repetitive thought but sometimes the

most dangerous thing in the world is a

repetitive thought absolutely and we

think about the most beautiful things we

create is because we're obsessed with

this new idea and this new thought that

we want to build something but at the

same time we know countless people who

they have a thought every day that says

I'm unlovable I'm

unworthy I don't deserve love in my life

if someone's having a negative

repetitive thought specifically around

selfworth what they believe they deserve

in love where do they start with that

thought well we think primarily uh 90%

of the time we think the same thoughts

as we thought the day before the

challenge with that is the thought that

you keep thinking over and over again

becomes belief and nerve cells that fire

together wire together so the more nerve

cells fire the more they develop

long-term relationships and the more

hardwired they become the more hardwired

they become the more automatic they are

the more automatic they are the more

unconscious they become come so the

process of change really requires

becoming conscious of your unconscious

thoughts which means just because you

have that thought doesn't necessarily

mean it's the truth if you have that

thought and you accept it you believe it

you surrender to it without analyzing it

that thought will lead to the same

Choice which will lead to the same

behavior which will create the same

experience which then will produce the

same emotion the same emotions then

drive our very same thoughts in time our

biology our neurocircuitry our neur

chemistry our hormones and even our gene

expression stays the same because we're

the same so in the process of change

when you come up against that

unconscious belief and you make it

conscious most people get uncomfortable

uh when they confront that thought and

they're stopping an automatic process

and the body which has been conditioned

to be the mind because it's doing

something over and over again that's a

habit is craving the experience because

it wants the emotion associated with it

right so the thought of being unworthy

produces the feeling of being unworthy

that feeling then when the person feels

unworthy tends to cause the person to

think more unworthy thoughts it only

takes a thought and a

feeling an image of yourself and an

emotion a stimulus and

response and you can condition the body

to memorize that behavior and that

emotional state better than the

conscious mind so the moment we inhibit

that thought or the moment we become

conscious of and we no longer accept it

there's a biological craving that takes

place in the body because the body has

been conditioned to be the mind so the

body starts influencing the mind to

think more corresponding thoughts equal

to that feeling so here comes the

assault now you're not only unworthy

you're you're everything else that goes

along with that

feeling and this is where uh people have

to make up their mind if they truly want

to change because if you decide to

confront that thought and make a

different Choice get ready because

you're going to feel uncomfortable it's

going to feel unfamiliar and it's going

there's going to be some uncertainty cuz

you're stepping out of familiar

territory now you're stepping out of the

known and you're stepping into the

unknown now this is really when you

leave the bleachers and you get on the

playing field because the brain

immediately looks around in its

environment to see if anything's

changing because you're changing and you

see that nothing in your world is

changing because you actually haven't

fully changed yet so the moment we look

for evidence in our life and we don't

see it sooner or later most people

accept that thought which leads to the

same Choice which creates the same

behavior which creates the same

experience that produces the same

feeling then they say oh this feels

right to me no that feels familiar

because you've just returned back to the

known self I think that when people

truly want to make up their mind to

change and they become so conscious of

those unconscious thoughts they would

never go unconscious to them again

that's the moment the body is being

reconditioned to a new mind if you

inhibit that choice that leads to that

habit or that behavior a habit is when

you've done something so many times the

body knows how to do it better than the

brain now you're stopping the body from

being on its automation on

autopilot and if the body is craving the

feeling of unworthiness and you're

stopping the body from feeling that way

and you're

aware in your life how you speak

you're aware in your life how you're

feeling and you're checking in you're

saying do I really want to feel this way

this is that River of change where

you're going from the old self to the

new self so it makes sense then if those

principles and biology work in that way

they could actually work in our favor so

if you said okay I'm going to sit down

for a few minutes I'm going to become so

conscious of my unconscious self my

unconscious personality that Victory

today would not be going unconscious to

those thoughts behaviors and emotions

okay let me get so familiar with them

that I don't go unconscious okay I got

that

down now what what thoughts do I want of

fire and wire in my brain and if a

belief is a thought that you keep

thinking over and over again with

intention and with attention you'll

switch on that prefrontal cortex and

assign meaning to the ACT and start

installing new circuits in your brain if

you keep doing it over and over again it

becomes more hardwired it becomes more

automatic and now you're installing a

new belief that you are worthy of love

you are worthy of abundance you are

worthy to heal whatever that is that's

the thought you do want to believe in

and when it matters the most is when

it's the hardest because if you don't

have the circuitry in place you'll

default back to the old programs right

so then if you said how am I going to be

in my zoom calls today how am I going to

be in traffic today how am I going to be

with my ex my co-workers

uh and you started thinking about and

rehearsing how you were going to act in

certain situations the brain actually

doesn't know the difference between the

real life experience and what you're

Imagining the research on mental

rehearsal shows that the brain will look

like in time that it's already had the

experience and it's vacant of the

experience now keep firing and wiring

those circuits and you're going to begin

to behave that way so now you're

installing circuitry now to use in your

life to get your behaviors to match your

intentions if you said how would it feel

to feel worthy of love how would it feel

to be grateful for Life how would it

feel to be worthy of abundance and you

said I'm going to teach my body

emotionally what this feels like before

the manifestation of the event you're

not waiting for your life to change to

feel worthy you're actually changing

your life by becoming worthy you're

generating abundance you're generating

love you're creating an elevated emotion

m M now our data is so compelling

because when you truly begin to elevate

your emotional state and you could

really lock in you know to those

elevated

emotions your body is so

objective that it actually believes that

it's living in a whole new

environment before the environment

changes in other words the body is

believing it's in that new future and if

the environment signals the Gene and it

does and the end product of an

experience the environment is an emotion

you're actually signaling genes ahead of

the environment and your body will begin

to become conditioned to a new mind now

think about this if you did that every

day the word meditation literally means

become familiar with you become familiar

with your old self you become familiar

with your new self and you say I'm not

getting up until I feel this

feeling and then you'd say I want to be

able to bring this feeling up whenever I

want I'm going to keep remembering this

feeling over and over again only takes a

thought feeling an image of the future

and emotion a stimulus and response you

can condition your body to believe it's

living in a whole new life and when you

feel the emotions of your future

something amazing happens you're no

longer in lack or separation so you're

no longer looking for the event to take

away that feeling of lack or separation

your body's actually believing it's in

the event and so then you're not looking

for it you feel like it's already

happened get ready because that's when

your life begins to change and so we've

discovered that if you're actually

practicing this and you immersed

yourself in that experience fully for

7even days the amount of metabolic and

biological changes that will take place

in your body will be so significant that

your body will actually believe it's

living in that future and yet most of

the people that come to our workshops

are literally in a ballroom there's

nothing really exciting happening in the

environment but their bodies believing

they're living in a whole new life and

so one thought leads to a choice which

leads to a behavior which creates an

experience that produces an emotion so

then new information new knowledge

begins to cause you to think differently

if you can remember that knowledge and

begin to make a different choice because

you want to experience the truth of that

information you'll have to behave

differently and when the experience

occurs and you feel the feeling of your

abundance or wealth I guarantee you

you're going to continue wanting to make

the process of change something

consistent in your life this is why I

love talking to you I mean that

literally you could just what you just

said there I hope everyone listens to it

again and again and again and partly I

think there's something to be said for

that the best things that have rewired

my brain and my mind were things that I

repeated daily I took something that I

loved listening to or loved learning or

reading a paragraph of a book and I

would literally just reprogram Myself by

giving that to my mind every single day

yeah and as I'm listening to you talk I

think there's a few really powerful

things I wanted to pull out uh when I

lived as a monk and studied the Vaders

they would talk about thoughts in

different modes and there are three

modes the mode of ignorance the mode of

passion and the mode of goodness and

there's a hierarchy to those thoughts

and so the mode of ignorance would be an

unfulfilling thought or a completely

fear or insecurity based thought which

would be I am not worthy or I am unlucky

and I can't do that I can't be in love

no one can be in love with me that's

like a mode of ignorance thought a mode

of passion thought would be I can be in

love with anyone I want and I can find

anything and uh it's it's almost like

you know you're lying to yourself and

you haven't really you haven't really

applied what you're saying and it's just

this big bold statement but it doesn't

quite sit and

resonate and the mode of goodness

thought is I can take steps daily to

create love in my life right now and and

you start to see how people would often

look at what we're saying and they think

oh it's just positive thinking it isn't

it's not it's not just a false statement

what you're saying is what you two words

you used intention and attention you're

actually being conscious about where

that intention and the attention is

being placed you're intending that if I

do something every day and I place my

attention on

XYZ then I can create this new reality

for myself whenever I have a tough

conversation coming up a tough meeting

something difficult I'll rehearse it in

my head and you're so right that you can

prepare for the future even when I do

skydiving or if I'm sitting in a cold

plunge I'm preparing my mind before I

even do it there's no point of just

jumping in and diving in I think what's

really interesting is that partly a lot

of the anxiety and stress we feel is

because we kind of hope that we'll never

feel anxiety and stress again so there's

a sense of like okay I get to a place

where I never experienced anxiety I I

almost think that that sets us up to be

more hurt by the anxiety and inevitable

uncertainty will feel I would love to

hear your thoughts gosh let me love to

respond this we got three thoughts going

on at the same time do it so so to

fulfill the first part of that question

it's an

experiment right it's an experiment life

is an experiment so if your personality

creates your personal reality and your

personality is made of how you think how

you act and how you feel if you keep

thinking the same way you keep acting

the same way you keep feeling the same

way your life is going to stay the same

because you're the same so the

experiment is okay let me begin to think

differently so I got to remind myself

how I do want to think and I have to

remind myself of how I no longer want to

think so I don't default and go

unconscious let me remind myself how I'm

going to behave so that I could actually

get my behaviors to match my intentions

and let me remind myself of how I'm

going to feel if I'm able to succeed in

that day then there should be some

change in my life this the experiment

that and and and if it doesn't change

that doesn't mean the law doesn't work

for you it's just you're not that good

yet it just you just got to keep

practicing right so the act of

disconnecting from your life long enough

to remind yourself of who you do want to

be and who you no longer want to be that

experiment then is the experiment called

life now it's not that you

react the question is how long are you

going to react that's the real question

cu I mean I react all the time I

everybody does but if you're going to

stay there and you're going to live in

that emotional state you will see life

through that lens of that emotion right

so now it gets complicated because the

stronger the emotion you feel towards

certain people or problems in your life

the more you pay attention to them and

where you place your attention is where

you place your energy so from a purely

biological as well as Quantum State we

could say then you're using that person

or that circumstance to reaffirm your

dependence on feeling that emotion so

you have to hate your enemy and if your

enemy dies you'll find another person to

hate because that is that is the

response right so the body is is the

animal it's been conditioned a certain

way and it's and if it's been doing

something and feeling something for an

extended period of time there's a

modification of its receptor sites it's

it's needing those emotional states so

in the process of

change just be ready because you're

going to feel uncomfortable a lot of the

time now the question is do you want to

stay there so then most people think

they they don't have any control over

their emotional state they think I'm

just this way and I feel this way well

we we actually can show people that

that's not the truth that when it's the

hardest it matters the most and if

you're able to really work and train

your body like you're training

animal to stop feeling one way and start

feeling another way if you believe that

you're an eternal being let's just say

that I mean just most religions talk

about we're Eternal most sects of

thought only a few that don't whether

you're going to heaven or hell or

Nirvana or on the wheel you're pretty

much going to be around for a long time

that that moment matters so much in the

light of Eternity because that's the

moment you make up your mind to no

longer be defined by your past why are

you being defined by your past because

emotions are a record of the past and so

then if you're feeling that emotion your

body is believing it's back in that same

experience of the past so the more

knowledge that we have and

understanding that

justified valid or not those emotions

are hurting no other person but you

because the long-term effects of living

by those emotional states those survival

states are actually down regulating

genes and creating diseases sooner or

later you're going to have to ask

yourself is this loving to myself and

forgiveness is just when you overcome

the emotion you take your attention off

that person or that problem and you're

you're freeing yourself and you're

freeing them so people do the best with

what they think is available that's my

belief and if you're unaware that you

can control your emotional states you'll

rely on something outside of you to do

that whether it's a computer game

whether it's a Netflix show whether it's

a drug whatever whatever it is that you

need to make that feeling Go away You're

dependent on your outer world and I

think that's a hypnosis that's a

conditioning teach people that you can

actually regulate and change your

emotional states you give them the tools

to literally step into a new future so

that process of course is extremely

uncomfortable and the question is how

long are you going to stay in that

emotional state and 50% of the story

that most people tell about that past

experience isn't even the truth CU

they're making things up and they're

doing that so that they can justify why

they haven't changed since some past

event most people reach a point in their

life where they reach crisis or disease

or diagnosis or loss or betrayal where

they finally go gosh I it's time to

change I think change is an ongoing

process and the more we change the more

we should see evidence in our life that

makes it exciting yeah and I I think

you're right that I I've thought about

this for a while that I feel most people

know that they want to change and most

people know what they want to change but

they still struggle to make a change and

so I found that we don't often have a

values crisis we have a habits crisis

because people don't how how to

reprogram their habits and they've

started to assume that the way they feel

is who they are and I wonder how you

think about this because I think we're

living at a time where what you just

said is like you either kind of find a

way to numb your feelings so you're

turning towards something external to

numb how you feel or today we're being

told well feel every feeling and emotion

completely and then often we don't kind

of get to the reprogramming phase so I

guess how do you know how how long to

take a feeling seriously effectively and

assessing it before you kind of take

action on it feelings and emotions are

the end product of past experiences and

we can remember experiences better

because we can remember how they feel

the stronger the emotion we have to some

experience in our life the more altered

we are inside of us the more the brain

freezes a frame and takes a snapshot and

that's called a long-term memory that

that image is being bossed

neurologically in the brain so then what

most people don't know is that every

time they remember that event that

trauma that betrayal that loss whatever

it is they're producing producing the

same chemistry in their brain and body

as if the event is occurring so what

happens over time is that conditioning

process conditions the body to literally

live in the past so if a person is

living by the same familiar feeling

every single day whether it's guilt or

unworthiness or pain or suffering or

victimization or depression or whatever

it is it's so important for them to come

right up against that emotional state

because they're coming up against the

known the question fundamentally becomes

for that person is it possible then to

feel a different feeling now if you

cannot feel a different feeling other

than the feeling that you're used to

feeling it should tell you volumes about

that feeling because it's going to

influence your very same thoughts so the

research that we've done over and over

again is that the the only way you're

actually going to reprogram your brain

to work in your favor is you got to

learn how to regulate your brain waves

and you know this of course beta

brainwave patterns are thinking brain

wve patterns it's the analytical mind

it's our critical facilities the we're

in beta right now we're aware of our

bodies we're aware of the environment

we're aware of time the neocortex is

switched on it's what plugs us into

three-dimensional reality it's the seat

of the autobiographical self there's a

lot of circuits in there from things

you've learned intellectually and things

you've experienced in your life so for

the most part it's a repository of the

past right and so 90% of those thoughts

that we think being the same thoughts as

the day before tend to become like

automatic programs and they become more

subconscious or more unconscious so in

order for us to begin to change those

programs we got to get into the

operating system and only way we do that

is we got to slow our brain waves down

in that thinking neocortex the challenge

for most people is they have so many

demands in their

life they have so many emotional resp

responses to circumstances in their life

that they're living in a state of stress

and living in a state of survival and a

state of stress and survival You Don't

Close Your Eyes you got to keep your eye

on the ball you got to keep your

attention on the outer environment so uh

their brains tend to work in a higher

brain wave pattern a mid-range or high

level beta brain wave pattern that's

like driving your sports car in first

gear it's it's a lot of energy for the

brain so so learning how to regulate and

slow your brain waves down is something

that we've been very very interested and

when you teach people how to do that it

could become a skill and uh when the

brain starts to relax and it moves into

less of that chatter that takes place in

your brain and more of kind of an

imaginary State the brain sees in

pictures and images it's more creative

we're moving into that Alpha state so

now the door between the conscious mind

and the subconscious mind opens up as we

get beyond our analytical mind and our

analytical mind is actually what

separates the conscious mind from the

subconscious mind so as you slow your

brain waves down you get into Alpha

you're entering the operating system and

that's where you can rewrite a new

program that's where you can rehearse a

new script that's where you can begin to

plan your behaviors in a in a in an

intentional way if you if you can't

change your brain waves then it's like

your computer running a mck with all of

those programs and you yelling at it

telling it to stop you're not in the

operating system some people can get to

the point where they're so

relaxed that the body's in a light sleep

and yet they're conscious and awake and

now they're in this Theta brain wave

pattern and in Theta that's a hypnotic

State we're very suggestible to our

thoughts we're very suggestible to

information in that state and that state

then is where we see the most change

take place and so the person can

literally change from the inside out

when they learn how to get into the

operating system you've just hit the net

on the head with the constant experience

everyone has to think again going back

to what I was saying that when we're

trying to make a change the thing that

blocks us from making the change is

usually stress if I'm trying to be a

kind loving compassionate person but I'm

stressed out I'm likelier to be Snappy

and rude and condescending if I'm trying

to be healthier in my diet but I'm

stressed out or burnt out I'm going to

reach for the sugary food or the carbs

and the fat like that doesn't come from

anything else but stress to take away

the feeling to take away the feeling

take away the feeling right so let's get

real clear because I think it's

important for people to understand when

we're talking about stress and we're

talking about living in survival it's so

important to name those

emotions because anger and frustration

and control and hatred and envy and

jealousy and insecurity and unworthiness

and guilt and shame and suffering and

depression those are all derived those

are emotions that are D derived from the

hormones of stress and psychology calls

those normal states of Consciousness

those are Altered States Of

Consciousness because in stress the

physiology is that we're knocked out of

homeostasis we're knocked out of balance

because we perceiving some threat some

danger some emergency and so the

stronger the emotion you feel to

whatever stressor there is in your life

the more you pay attention to it and so

in time then you have to keep your

attention on all the important elements

in your life so you sit down to do a

meditation and when you're living in

stress and you're living in survival

there's only three things that are

important in that moment your attention

is on your body because you got to

preserve it your attention is on

something in your environment and what's

in your environment people objects

things places and you're very

preoccupied with time and when you're in

stress and you're in

survival the brain goes onto a default

mode and it's naturally trying to

predict the next next moment based on

what it's learned in the past and so as

you always try to forecast the future

based on your memory of the past you

can't be in the present moment right so

and yet our our model of change what we

discovered is that the only way a person

can change is when they get beyond their

body they get beyond all the elements of

their environment and they get beyond

that predictable Fusion familiar past

and they sink into the present moment

which is the unknown so if you can't do

that that because of the hormones of

stress most people will sit down and

they'll say okay I'm going to close my

eyes I'm going to start this process

where I'm going to rehearse how I'm

going to be today and they start

thinking about their cell phone they

start thinking about all their emails

and they start thinking I can't meditate

there's something wrong with me it's my

mother's fault you know and they

actually believe that thought to be the

truth and then they get up and they they

actually reaffirm it and they say I

can't meditate

now I can tell you that if you are

willing to see that

thought is just a thought in your brain

and you're curious what's on the other

side of that thought yeah you're going

to feel

uncomfortable but if you had some tools

and skills to apply and you were able to

take your attention off your cell phone

and settle your body back down into the

present moment that would be a victory

and then your body would say come on you

got to feel a little frustration now you

got to be impatient you got to be

judgmental come on that's what you

always think that's how you always feel

and you like an

animal you settle the body back down

into the present moment and you tell it

it's no longer the mind that you're the

mind that's a victory then the body says

uh hey dude you're super busy you got a

lot of things to do you got a lot of

people to see you got a lot of places to

go you got a lot of things to do and

you've been doing the same thing every

day your body is going to want to get up

and do something you're going to want to

quit cuz your brain's telling you that

you can't do this if you had the

awareness to settle the body back down

into the present moment you would be

executing a will that's greater than the

program because most people lose their

free will to those programs and it's

that

tedium in the beginning that is an

uncompromising will where you keep

training the animal to stay to take all

of its attention off the environment to

get beyond all the Cravings the feelings

the habits of the body the drives of the

body and catch yourself defaulting to

that predictable future bringing the

body back into the present moment

siphoning energy back your attention

into the past based on those familiar

emotions of the past we've discovered

that if you're willing to do that for

just a few days you could actually

liberate an enormous amount of energy

from your body you go from particle to

wave from matter to energy and you're

literally transmuting those limited

emotions

into elevated emotions and something

really beautiful happens if you're

willing to fire The Crucible and sit

through that long enough all of these

emotions move that energy moves right up

into the heart and the person starts

falling in love with life they start

feeling this state of gratitude this

gratefulness to be alive this inevitable

word of relaxed and awake M and

something really magical happens when

we've discovered uh this little simple

thing when that energy makes it to the

heart there's only one place it wants to

go and it goes straight to the brain so

the person starts relaxing into their

heart when they feel this feeling and

the more they relax into the heart the

more their brain all of a sudden starts

becoming aroused and they start going

into these elevated gamma brain wave

patter patter now gamma is not

unconscious gamma is actually

superconscious it's actually super aware

you're outside the program now so when

that occurs and the Brain goes into

gamma brain wave patterns what we

discovered is not it's not a little

gamma it's not a lot of gamma it's not a

whole lot of gamma it's a supernatural

amount of gamma and we start seeing

these brain waves where we see Theta

start carrying Alpha Alpha and Alpha

starts resonating with beta and beta

starts creating High beta and high beta

starts creating gamma and you see these

standing waves of brain coherence

happening and the person feels so

amazing that they don't want the moment

to end and so we see when they put their

attention on their heart like like

filling a gas tank we see on the gauge

of the on the scan this very low

frequency start rising in the heart the

the energy that's the heart uses to to

function actually goes up because

they're placing their attention there

and where they Place their attention is

where they Place their energy then you

see the parasympathetic nervous system

come up with it that's the nervous

system of

relaxation and then we see it kind of

drop and we see the sympathetic nervous

system starting to go up and now

sympathetic regulation is an arousal

right but the arousal isn't

fear the arousal isn't ha hat or

aggression the arousal isn't pain that's

the arousal created from survival

there's only one other arousal and

that's ecstasy that's Bliss and the

person all of a sudden feels connected

to something greater now here's the

beauty we we we could see people do this

in 15 minutes the most important

takeaway around all of this is that

feeling that they're feeling is not

coming from anywhere outside of them no

person's doing that no wardrobe change

is doing that no sports card no football

game nothing is doing it to them it's

actually coming from within that is the

moment they stop looking for it outside

of them and the love affair begins and

so when we start feeling these elevated

emotions these more selfless emotions

it's not like you have to try to forgive

it actually is the side effect of you

changing your emotional state you no

longer want uh because you feel so whole

how could you want anything so we we we

started interviewing people when they

had these moments and and they had such

an incredible amount of love that they

felt their we measure their oxytocin

levels their love chemicals very

elevated uh the the amount of gamma in

terms of coherence was 200 300 400

standard deviations outside of normal in

coherent gamma now three standard

deviations outside of normal in gamma is

about 2% of the population 200 300 4 a

lot of energy in the brain so the brain

all of a sudden is receiving an enormous

amount of energy so we've discovered

relaxed in the heart and awaken the

brain and that process of transformation

is your willingness to sit past that

thought past that emotion and keep

training the animal and sooner or later

you can re recondition it to a new mind

and the system for this new your mind in

this journey that you're talking about

is meditation like this is coming

through a meditative practice is that

similar to the breath work meditation

practice that you just did research on

or is that totally separate these wow

okay yes so um our weeklong events are

uh a full immersion experience we've

done the largest studies on meditation

that have ever been done just because we

have a community of 1,00 people that

come to an event that are going to be

getting up at the same time doing the

same thing uh pretty much eating making

the same food choices and pretty much a

big laboratory right and so our

discoveries in working with 1,00 people

in in measuring brain

waves be their brain function before and

after the event um measuring their gene

expression before and after the event

we're measuring uh 2,882 metabolites in

their blood we're measuring DNA

expression we're measuring urine we're

measuring saliva we're measuring the

energy of the room we're measuring

everything and meditation in a sense

that it's not in the traditional way um

what we do is we look at what really

works you know we're actually looking to

say well that's something that we can

actually see a change in so we teach

meditation three ways to become familiar

with your old self and to become

familiar with your new self that's what

the word meditation means

familiarization to become familiar with

so we use that model for change so slow

your brain waves down and get beyond

your analytical mind these meditation

and you teach your body how to do that

and we've discovered a formula that that

simply makes it very easy for people to

do it you practice it you'll get good at

it just like anything else you practice

so so to get beyond the analytical mind

there's another way to reprogram

ourselves and then meditation is really

about getting beyond your body or

disconnecting from your body

disconnecting from your environment and

forgetting about time and that is that

eye of the needle where we begin to make

the most significant changes so we're

data driven you know we're we're really

looking to see what it is and and when

we see uh brains respond in the same way

it helps me enormously to teach the

material better and so the more people

understand what they're doing and the

more they understand why they're doing

it the more naturally the how becomes

easier and nothing is left to conjecture

if nothing is left to Superstition or

Dogma or even in

spiritual you know traditional words

use science says the Contemporary

language to demystify that process you

need give new people numerous times to

overcome themselves and numerous times

to connect sooner or later you'll start

watching transformation right before

your eyes and so one of the cool things

that we've discovered is that we have so

much compelling data to suggest that

you're greater than you think more

powerful than you no more unlimited than

you could ever dream we have compelling

data that suggest that your nervous

system is the greatest pharmacist in the

world that it makes drugs that work

better than any drug in a drug store a

drug study is about 18 to 25% cause and

effect causality our data is between 75

and 85% cause and effect this is a

person creating their own Pharmacy of

anti-inflammatories their own Pharmacy

of anti-carcinogenic chemicals their own

Pharmacy of uh pain relievers we're

seeing this over and over again so we

have this incredible data that says that

this is no longer pseudoscience this is

the real this is really science the side

effect of a person's

transformation is has changed my belief

in what's possible I have seen people

stand on the stage with stage four

cancers that were in every single organ

in their body that metastasized and and

they have no sign of cancer in their

body and we have data that suggest that

you put the blood of an advanced

meditator and an uterine cancer cell a

pancreatic cancer

cell 70% of the mitochondrial function

in the cancer cell is diminished the

mitochondria is the energy packets of

the cell it's taking energy out of the

cancer cell works perfect with what

we're seeing with uh uh the testimonials

uh that that people are telling around

the world we've seen blind people see

we've seen deaf people hear we've seen

uh people with spinal cord injuries walk

again we we've seen uh ALS change we've

seen all kinds of unbelievable health

conditions change by a person simply

changing the way they think the way they

act and the way they feel how long have

you seen certain things lost like how

much does the practice have to continue

daily to sustain impact because I feel

that you know this isn't as you know

isn't a one-off thing and that isn't

what you're encouraging like this is the

experience of when someone's coming to a

retreat or an event they're having this

incredible experience but then do you

measure how people continue to practice

take yeah it's super important for us um

uh and of course we have mounds of data

but let's see if I can say this uh as as

clear as I possibly can when a person

has that arousal where they're feeling

that elevated emotion and their their

eyes are

closed they're in a room with 1,800

people there's music playing in the

background they're not eating they're

not smelling they're not tasting they're

not moving about and feeling on some

level they're having an inner experience

right the body is so objective that it's

literally believing it's living in a new

environment and so that elevated emotion

somehow tends to drag the body right out

of the past into the present moment so

many people with everything from eczema

to muscular distrophy when they have

those events

there's a biological change that takes

place in their body where they feel

completely differently now some people

heal all the way some people are out of

their wheelchair and they're walking

again but they're

limping and it doesn't mean it's over it

just means they made contact where they

they hid gold and so there's varying

degrees that we see we've seen

people for seven years work on a

terminal health condition took them

seven years to heal that health

condition some people it takes 2 years 3

years some people they do it in 3 months

we there's no uh predictable menu that

we can say it's this way now when people

have those more profoundly aroused

States it seems like uh their change is

much more immediate and much more

permanent uh but for the most part we

see people's response pretty dramatic

now it's also important to say that we

have seen people heal from from terminal

cancers stop feeling those elevated

emotions and return to responding to the

circumstances and conditions in their

life and return back to the same

personality the same personality is the

same personal reality and their body is

believing it's living in that same

environment and they're feeling the same

way and they're in the habit of acting

the same way and thinking the same way

and lo and behold uh the condition

returns um we've seen people heal

themselves of Parkinson's disease more

than once have one

response to some very serious event in

their life that produced a very strong

emotion and in one hour their condition

returned because they literally went

back to their old self and we've seen

that person turn around and reverse the

condition again again people do the best

with what they think is available the

person standing on the stage who we've

had numerous Physicians and researchers

stand on the stage they're the 4-minute

mile they're telling the community I'm

the example of Truth now this is no

longer philosophy this is no longer

Theory here's my scans I we had someone

with bilateral breast cancer just

recently uh no evidence of cancer in our

breasts or any lymph nodes no longer in

our liver I'm looking out at the

audience and everybody's leaning

in there's 4minute Mile and that

person's telling the truth and they're

they're telling a story and it's not

pretty it's not always uh Rosy they they

went through a lot of Dark Nights they

went through a lot of their condition

getting worse but every day they had to

show up for themselves if they stopped

showing up and doing the work they would

really not believe it was possible but

if they showed up and did the work it

means that they believe it's possible

and I think when you believe in

possibility you got to believe in

yourself mhh when you believe in

yourself you got to believe in

possibilities so it used to be a few

examples of of that now we have so many

great testimonials so many great stories

that now people it's becoming infectious

just like a virus or any bacteria

becomes infectious now health and

wellness becomes as infectious as

disease and you get a community of

people uh starting to break through and

you start seeing these changes where

people stand on the stage invariably

you're going to see a very strong shift

in Consciousness and Consciousness is

awareness and if you're unaware that you

could actually heal yourself

you'll make the same Choice once you see

it uh I think it starts be creating a

brush fire and and and that's really the

exciting part so we've seeing so many

great testimonials that are undeniably

great stories of transformation and many

many of those people still no longer

have their eczema still no longer have

their Parkinson still no longer have

their cancer yeah since since the last

time we spoke I know your team of

research has went and did some work I

wanted to ask you some questions about

this you did some research on the impact

of one minute breath work how does this

impact our heart rate variability and

how does HIV impact our anxiety let's

talk about heart rate variability

because it's an important thing so so

your brain is trying to control and

predict everything that's taking place

in your life because stress is actually

created when you can predict something

you can control something or you have

the perception that something's going to

get worse okay so you switch on that

primitive nervous system the fight ORF

flight nervous system and as you shift

your attention from one person to

another person to another thing to

another place to another problem every

one of those different elements has a

neurological Network in your brain so

the arousal of the hormones to say pay

attention there's danger as you start

shifting your attention to each one of

these elements that have neurological

networks in your brain your brain starts

firing very

incoherently and in fact you could

actually by thinking about your problems

turn on the stress response just by

thought alone and that's what most

people do so now there you are you're

sitting in traffic

the heart is pumping because it's trying

to get blood to the extremities because

A Primitive system switching on saying

that there's there's a predator there's

danger and the heart is beating against

closed arteries and the Heart starts

beating out of rhythm it starts beating

out of order and it starts beating very

incoherently so when you have

incoherence in the brain and you have

incoherence in the heart when waves are

incoherent when they intersect with each

other they cancel each other out and

when they cancel each other out that's

less energy in the brain if there's less

energy in the brain you're going to

default to some of those reflexive

systems If energy is diminished in the

heart you're not going to trust you're

not going to be vulnerable You're not

going to want to commune you're not not

going to want to connect you're not

going to want to feel grateful it's not

a time to feel any of those things it's

time to run fight and hide okay so most

people say okay well it to I had a

stressful day I was stressed out the

entire day and at the end of the day

they turn on the TV and they they

relax the important thing to re realize

is that if you're relying on something

outside of you to change that emotional

state you'll become dependent on it so

is it possible then to begin to create

more coherence in the brain and the answ

is yes because when you're under the gun

of those chemicals of survival you're

narrowing your focus on the cost you

hear something moving in the bushes you

freeze and you narrow your focus and

it's that narrowing of focus that tends

be obsessive when we're in stress we

overthink things we overanalyze that

actually we've discovered makes the

brain worse it actually makes the heart

regulate more out of order so then we

said okay if the brain is narrowing its

focus and it's becoming overattentive

what if we teach it how to do something

else what if we teach it how to broaden

its focus and instead of focusing on

something material or something known

just open up and focus on nothing in the

act of broad the focus actually cause a

person to stop thinking and doing and

start sensing and feeling is actually

what starts to slow their brain waves

down the redundancy of Shifting your

attention from one person to another

person to another problem to another

thing causes the brain to fire like a

lightning storm in the clouds very

incoherently so as you start to open

your awareness and sense nothing we've

we've seen this thousands of

times those different networks that are

firing out of order start to synchronize

and what sinks in the brain links in the

brain and the Brain be becomes more

orderly it starts to become more

coherent if you could learn how to rest

your attention in your heart and where

you place your attention is where you

place your

energy regulate your breath start

slowing your breathing down even if you

did it for one minute you could actually

begin to change your brain waves MH and

you could actually cause your heart to

start functioning more regulation and

more or order

if you said okay I'm going to work with

my body and I'm going to start breathing

and I'm going to start feeling emotions

that I do want to feel yes it may take

you a few minutes to get there but if

you keep practicing it over and over

again the heart starts producing a very

profound signal it starts to produce an

external magnetic field it's it's it's

measurable so now you have a coherent

brain which means you can get very

intentional and you have a coherent

heart which means you can feel the

emotions of your future before it

happens somehow you have this

broadcasting of this wi-fi signal uh and

the Brain tends to be electrical in

nature so it's sends out an electrical

charge into the field the heart is the

magnetic charge it's what draws things

to us it's the it's the magnetic field

and now you actually by changing the way

you think and the way you feel you're

changing the signal in the field then if

you're able to maintain that state for

an extended period of time I say

something magical is going to happen in

your life something unusual some unknown

experience is going to occur if you keep

thinking the same way and feeling the

same way your life should stay the same

so we do one minute practices we do five

minute practices we do 30 minute

practices we want to get so good at

doing it with our eyes closed

that we can do it with our eyes open

yeah now I when I hear that like I've

had personal genuine experience of that

where I've done that when I've had when

I'm having a moment where I'm feeling

anxious or I'm feeling stressed or you

know something unpredictable has

happened and I feel that change in my

heart rate and I notice my breathing

change I notice it become more shallow I

notice it become more random I know that

when I'm practicing breath work I'm able

to come back to Stillness I'm able to

come back to that sense of balance and

I'm able to actually approach the issue

at hand with more clarity with more

connectedness and a feeling of

confidence but when someone else who may

not have had that experience yet or may

not be trained in that they're just

thinking well how do I solve the problem

right like they're they're listening to

me and you're going well but I can't

because I just I need to solve this

problem like you're saying like I'm

going to be 30 minutes late for a job

interview or I just had an argument with

my partner this morning and I've got a

big presentation this morning as well at

work now I'm stressed about it because

I'm thinking about that or my kid just

had got yeah I had to rush into hospital

and now I'm late like I guess when

you're looking at it from a very human

point of view it's really hard to

understand the value in this what do you

say to anyone who's thinking and feeling

that way uh no I think it's I think it's

a reasonable conversation I mean um uh

sometimes we have to be super aroused uh

and sometimes we really have to pay

attention and sometimes there are

threats and dangers where that primitive

nervous system actually works in our

favor and and that's the emergency

system but you got to also realize that

you only have a certain amount of energy

and if you're living in emergency mode

for an extended period of time there's

no energy for growth and repair there's

no energy for long-term building

projects and so when it's

needed uh and you have to outrun the

Predator you go you don't sit and try to

make friends with a predator we're not

that

good you run right the problem is if

keep that alarm system switched on all

the time it gets very addictive it's a

great on it's gets very addictive right

and so I've looked at people's brain

scans uh and watch their brain get worse

in the early days and tap them on the

head and say what were you doing in

there 100% of the time they were

analyzing the problems in their life

within that disturbing emotion and if an

emotion is a record of the past and they

can't think greater than how they feel

they're thinking in the past there's no

no solution there cross the river get

beyond the emotion and you'll see

possibility because you're no longer in

the box of that emotional state now

that's so much easier said than done

because you're going

against thousands of years of

programming of living in survival I mean

200 years ago it wasn't easy being human

I mean we're in survival all the time I

me famine you know every disease I mean

it was it was hard to be human and so we

have to lay down the very thing we used

our whole life to get what we want for

something greater to occur and it goes

against thousands of years of

programming it's not something that you

get good at doing once you got to keep

practicing so so so you really have two

ways to look at it if you're if you're

living in stress and you're living in

survival and that system is switched on

then everything will be a threat

everything will be a danger everything

will be a reason to rush to be impatient

to be frustrated to be judgmental

because that's that's the Consciousness

that's the emotion we're living by so

now you you have a a problem with a

co-worker you have a problem with your

partner whatever it is that you use as

an example and you have to give a

presentation now now you really have one

of two choices either be

victimized by those conditions in your

life and you stay in that emotional

state and I'll say to you Jay why are

you that way well I'm this way because

of this person the circumstance the

person or circumstan is controlling the

way I feel and the way I think think

anything that controls the way I feel

and the way I think I'm victim to right

okay or I actually can be a Creator now

okay so when it's the hardest it matters

the most okay so there's going to be a

story a valid story that's going to go

along with those emotions that you're

going to have to give up that you can

address at another time from a different

state if you're altered in that state

and you say something you do something

you write the email you send the text

you'll always regret it you'll always

say should have never said that I should

have never done that we got to learn

that we're in an altered state at that

time so it's only one of two choices you

either stay there the whole day and tell

everybody that story or you say okay let

me take a moment remember that this is

the experiment called life okay let me

practice getting relaxed in my heart let

me slow the animal down let me practice

that take a few minutes now let me

breathe let me get my state back let me

change everything okay let me remember

who I am who I want to be when I open my

eyes and let me practice that again now

even if you had to do that 10 times in

one day I would say it was a day worth

living I would say it was a day worth

living and when we do walking

meditations uh in our our Retreats we're

doing walking meditations so you can

practice doing it with your eyes open

like if you're going to be relaxed in

your heart and awake in your brain and

you can do it with your eyes closed okay

let's take it out for a test drive yeah

let me open my eyes let me pay a little

bit more attention to my inner World let

me practice feeling this feeling let me

practice feeling this way and let my

brain do what it does let me get defined

let me change my physiology let me

change my state let me walk as the

healed person let me walk as the

Abundant person let me walk as if my

prayers are answered let me walk in this

state if I keep practicing that over and

over it's going to become a habit right

yeah so so we hit it as many ways as we

can we have at least seven or eight

different breaths that we do because we

see how they all work in the

brain we have all kinds of meditations

we have sitting meditations we have

standing and walking meditations we have

laying down meditations because we want

you to be able to do it with your eyes

open with your eyes closed standing

walking any way you can so that you

don't default and return back to that

person now if you do default you didn't

fail that's a program you just went

unconscious and how many times do we

have to forget until we stop forgetting

and start remembering that's the moment

of change no one no one cares how many

times you fell off the bicycle if you

ride the bicycle now you ride the bike

so it's it's the constant process uh

every single day and I think that

sometimes we look for evidence in our

life and it hasn't happened and I think

it's so important that we still show up

yeah yeah because that's the that's

where you're changing the most and when

you get to that point where you could

care less if it happens or not because

you feel so happy so grateful for who

you are get ready because your life is

going to begin to change in magical ways

I'm so proud of our community not

because they do the work every day not

because they're trying to be good or

please anybody they do it because they

don't want the magic yeah to really end

the experiment is too good is they don't

they're going to continue to be a

Creator in their life so then when they

change the way they feel and the way

they think and they start seeing

evidence in their life they're going to

remember what they did inside of them to

produce that outcome and they're going

to believe their creator of their life

unless are the victim of their life and

that's empowerment yeah and you can't

take that away from anybody you can't

tell me now you're too sick to do that

you can't tell me you're too old to do

that you can't tell me you had a

horrible past you're too out of shape

you can't even tell me that you never

meditated before because we have people

that come they know nothing they get

dragged by somebody and they have the

most profound experience because they're

not expecting anything and we have data

to suggest that when you don't expect

anything you're going to have a profound

moment so everybody can do it there's

nobody that's so special to be excluded

from this process and we have had people

that have had brutal p s with abuse with

trauma we we've seen Navy Seals and

prisoners with horrible horrible

memories uh literally transform

literally transform uh in seven days and

I could say right now that you make the

time every single day to decide who

you're going to present to the world and

you get up as that person you're going

to fall a lot of times but sooner or

later once you start to change it's

pretty hard to go back yeah I think we

so easily forget that anything that

we've achieved today any place we've got

to was a commitment to refining the

process it was a disciplined effort to

make a tiny Improvement on something

else when you give the cycle example the

bike example the idea that you got back

up and you maybe changed one thing you

knew to shift your balance differently

you knew to Pedal at a different pace

like you tried these different things

and it's what you're saying that it's an

experiment if we keep trying the same

thing we get the same result but the

point that I Lov that you brought up to

that answer was the idea that sometimes

you do need to be an emergency but don't

make emergency a habit exactly and I

think that's where most of us Veer off

on the wrong path I was asked recently

anyone who knows me today knows that I'm

a hardworking productive high

performance type of individual I live a

very scheduled life and a and a

disciplined life and the biggest

question I get around the holidays is J

are you able to switch off and I always

go back and give the credit to my to my

monk training and say I switch off

immediately uh as soon as I'm on the

flight home I was I I remember before

Christmas I was I was getting on a

flight home back to London and I was off

the moment I stepped onto the flight and

it was because I was it's not because

I'm special or because I'm unique or I

have superpowers it's because I've

simply done what you said where it's

I've trained myself to always be present

and so if I'm really present in my work

like I am with you now that when I'm on

the plane I'm just present and I know

that it's time to switch off and so I I

think the idea that our presence bleeds

and our lack of presence bleeds and it's

not that you can selectively be in

emergency here and not in emergency here

the state you're feeling is going to

spread across your whole life like I

know a lot of people who are high

performance and and I've had to be

mindful of this as well it's like their

high performance at work but then they

take that high performance and they give

it to their family and now their family

is getting a high performance dad and

they don't want that they just want

their dad or they want their mom and so

how do we develop that I guess that's a

highly trained ability is is what you're

saying is we get the ability then to say

okay I know when to use this and when

not to that's that's a more heightened

State yeah I mean look there's no

there's there's nothing wrong with with

the hormones of stress I mean that's the

only way we could actually survive we're

we're part human part animal part Divine

I mean we have two things that work here

I I think the biggest challenge for a

lot of people and 70% of the time people

are living in that state of survival

living in that state of stress the more

you understand what that actually does

to you the more you can make better

choices on how long you actually do want

to stay there here's an example many

people who are changing a health

condition in our work they start to do

the work they start noticing I'm

sleeping better uh I have less pain

uh I got my appetite back I feel like I

have more energy they start noticing

these subtle subjective changes they go

to their doctor uh and their their scans

still show that they have their health

condition so they're noticing a change

but they're not healed all the way now

they don't say it didn't work they say

what is it about me that I still have to

change in order to heal what thought

what Behavior what emotion so they're

work in progress right many of those

people discover that they have one real

good hour of meditation where they feel

connected they feel like their heart is

opening up they feel like their brain is

coherent they feel really great they

don't want the moment to end and then

they spend 15 or 16 hours of their day

back in a program rushing around back in

their emotional states responding and

reacting and they realize that how could

one hour of an elevated State way

against 15 or 16 hours of my response to

everyone and everything in my life

emotionally is derived from those

familiar emotions of fear or anger or

hatred or or pain or suffering whatever

okay so now this is where the practicum

actually goes to the next level because

they're no longer just sitting down and

rehearsing who they want to be they're

actually rehearsing for their life

they're saying okay when I see that

person when I'm in that circumstance I

can't go unconscious and feel this

emotion and I can't go unconscious and

say these things or act this way how am

I going to act what would love do what

would greatness look like they don't

know they read about it they get more

information and they're building this

model and now all of a sudden the

response to people to circumstances the

problems in their life are changing

that's because they're changing then

they notice that their health condition

starts to improve a little bit more now

now they don't say how come my

Alzheimer's or my Parkinson's or my ALS

has been healed they're saying how much

more can I open my heart in my day and

feel this with my eyes open all day long

if I understand that if I live by these

emotions I'm signaling genes ahead of

the environment oh I'm going to stay in

this state because it's this emotional

state that is actually going to heal me

so I got to remember this feeling got to

remember this feeling got to remember

this feeling and now they're no longer

trying to remember the Feeling Just for

any other reason but because I want to

remember the feeling when they're with

their eyes open now it's their

understanding the more that they change

the more that their health changes and

and and you can have the best diet and

you could do the best exercise and you

could be really rigid in the food

choices and vitamins and minerals uh and

keep your body chemically balanced and

physically balanced but if you're not

emotionally balanced and you're

constantly in that fight ORF flight

system stress is when your body's

knocked out of homeostasis the stress is

when your brain and body are knocked out

of balance so so you you could have all

those things working for you but if you

are living in fear or you're controlling

and you're rigid and you're

perfectionist and you're hard on

yourself it's going to make sense that

that is going to have to change in order

for you to change right and so people

start getting they start getting it I

that's the only way I'm going to change

if I don't change it's not going to

change yeah one of my favorite things as

a practical exercise I ever did was I

literally had scripts and I mean

handwritten like I wrote scripts for how

I wanted to feel when I experienced ego

or envy and so for for every

emotional challenge I had something that

I thought was an unhealthy thought I

literally had like pages and pages and

pages of scripts that were built up from

research that were built up from

spiritual literature that were built up

from science whatever it may be of what

did I want to be able to say to myself

when this thought or that thought came

up and it sounds so basic but it really

does rewire your thoughts when now all I

can think of is that script and I need

to update that script regularly sure

that's a good point I mean I mean I'm

constantly yeah it's not once I'm

constantly I mean I mean 95% of Who We

Are by the time middle AG is a set of

unconscious thoughts behaviors and

emotions I mean those are beliefs and

perceptions that we have about ourselves

in our lives so I mean this is a never-

ending process of self-discovery I mean

there's always challenges that you'll

have in your life that are going to

initiate you into becoming conscious of

what you're unconscious to and you got

to meet those challenges from a greater

level of Consciousness than the

Consciousness that's created and you if

you don't your response in the way you

feel and the way you think being the

same and if you believe that how you

think and how you feel creates your life

if you don't change the way you think

and the way you feel your life's going

to stay the same because you're the same

I mean that's the way it works so

fundamentally it's so important for

people to understand that it is actually

possible to change it really is possible

it is yeah it I I love you keep

repeating that because it's I think

that's the hardest part where you've

just again the the broken record is I

can't change nothing will change and not

realizing that it's just a set of habits

it's just a set of routines that you've

adopted as your reality and you're going

to be uncomfortable so get used to it

and so you could either stay

uncomfortable or you could actually say

how do I want to feel let me instead of

memorizing this emotion let me memorize

this emotion let me open my heart when

it's goes against everything that been

taught and programmed to do I mean and

and that's really when it really begins

to matter the most so it's it's really

an exciting time and and I'm so happy to

see that people are wrapping their minds

around all of this and doing it you know

doing it for themselves absolutely

absolutely have you found a difference

and I want to get a bit more technical

here have you found a difference between

meditation with bre breath work and

without breath work because I know you

do both and and what do you find is the

usefulness and benefits of either so we

do so many different types of breath

breath for so many different types of

reasons the breath that we were talking

about with Inspire pulling the mind out

of the body we do that breath to take

that creative life force that sits at

the base of the spine that that energy

that can create another another life

form the energy we use to digest a meal

the energy that we use to run from a

predator we're taking all that energy

that's stored in the body emotionally

and we're pulling that energy back up

into the brain If you practice this

breath repeatedly

there will be a release of energy into

the brain we have the data to show that

you're going to have a lot more energy

in your brain you're going to be way

more coherent in your brain and you're

going to be more conscious right and so

why is that important why because when

you regulate your brain waves we don't

want you to fall asleep we want you to

actually be really relaxed and awake at

the same time so we do this one breath

called pulling the mind out of the body

that's the Inspire Series where we're

taking all that Creative Energy and

we're we're with the breath pulling the

energy right up to a specific area the

brain when you do that properly your

brain will go into an altered state

that's the reason why we do it then we

do all kinds of other breathing like

breathing to change the heart uh Rhythm

uh sometimes when we're doing a laying

down breath uh when we're practicing

getting into that mystical State uh just

when the audience is just starting to

move into a slower brain wave state

we'll do a very forced inhalation

exhalation inhalation over and over

again like a hiker's breath only so that

the person feels euphoric and so

euphoric that they don't want to fall

asleep and they'll move into a slower

brain wave pattern and the door between

the conscious mind and the subconscious

mind opens and many times there's a

mystical experience waiting for that

person uh that's transcendental so so we

do all kinds of different breathing uh

techniques because we have different

intentions behind each one of them if

people want to dive into those where

where should they go if they want to

kind of grab some of those techniques or

get access are they only at the events

uh there's an online course that we

offer called the progressive Workshop

great um in the Progressive Workshop we

teach a few of those breaths and if you

come to a weeklong event you'll have an

opportunity to do all of them and we

start at 6:00 in the morning we finish

at I don't know Cancun the last one we

did I think we finished at 8 or 8:30

every night it was just a great group of

people and and uh we go seven days and

and some mornings are a little earlier

but uh you got a lot of practice you got

a lot of tools uh so by the time you

leave you can you can use them in your

life yeah that's amazing yeah for anyone

who can't obviously get to the live

event

then the online course will be helpful

but if you can go to one and I think I

think there's some good descriptions

also in in becoming Supernatural my last

book where we break it all down uh and

then there's some tutorials that we have

on our website to help you with some of

the breathing yeah I love that Joe is

there anything I haven't asked you about

today or anything that's on your mind

and heart that you really want to share

with everyone or something you've been

working on or or anything you feel

compelled to share gosh we uh we covered

a lot we we've covered a lot I we're

doing some really cool research with

random Avent generators and random event

generators are sophisticated coin tosses

you know if you the more you toss a coin

the more you're going to get 50/50 heads

heads or tails right so this machine

generates program machine generates um

about a th tosses in a second so you're

looking at a very very sophisticated

machine and if you run it for 30 minutes

you're going to see in time an equal

number of ones or zeros or heads or

tails and you're going to see the

straight line when you get a group of

people together with brain coherence and

heart coherence they're emitting a field

and when we do healings in our

events 100% of the time when we do those

healings those random event generators

have dramatic SKS to show that random

events become less random and more

intentional and it's Collective networks

of observers that determine reality and

it's not the number of people it's not

the amount of energy because it could be

entropic it's the most coherent energy

and we're causing a machine that's

programmed to behave in a very very

different way and I think that idea of

community of people coming together when

everybody else is in fear uh to show

courage when everybody else is in pain

uh to show compassion when everybody

else is in anger or hatred that to show

love I mean I think

by Nature as human beings I think we are

wired to give to connect to commune to

take care of one another to heal one

another to shine for one another and and

our data is so exciting to to actually

support that theorem yeah I love that

you brought that up and I'm that's you

know that's very macro and big as well

but also micro in that you're you're

measuring people's daily experience I

think you know when I think about

families who live together or couples or

Partners or or whoever you may be you

know when you're sleeping together when

you're waking up together at the same

time when you're sitting for meals

together when you know we've realized

and we know that the science shows that

your heart rate sink up like your

heartbeats sink up when you're with

someone and I think it's really

interesting because I think today in our

individualistic world there's a big

desire to do things at our own time when

we want how we want but if you're truly

trying to build a relationship with

someone else or build community there's

so much to be said for doing these basic

practices at the same time together

right it's really hard to be in

community when you're in

survival uh because survival makes us

put our attention on ourselves right uh

and I I think that when people are not

living in survival when they're out of

survival our nature really is community

is is culture is connection and it

starts with the self then it starts with

our closest relationships and builds out

from there and I I think that's a a a

healthy model you know for the for the

world I mean when you're working on

yourself and I'm working on myself and

I'm okay with me and you're okay with

you we're going to be okay with

everybody you know and I think when

we're not okay with ourselves uh that's

when uh it gets complicated that's

amazing everyone who's listening and

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you'll be practicing I hope that there's

parts of this conversation that you'll

listen to again and again and again

because you have to realize that the

first time you hear it there may be some

inspiration there may be some insight

but the second time that repetition is

going to help you actually apply rewire

and reconfigure so make sure you repeat

listen and make sure you share this with

a friend as well so you can discuss it

talk about it put it into your own

language and your vocabulary that's such

an important part of putting this into

practice as well uh Joe ever thank you

so much for making the time and effort I

know that you've always got

unpredictable things happening in your

life like this morning but you chose to

be here and uh thank you so much for

being here I really appreciate it thank

you Jay thank you for having me thank

you if you love this episode you'll

enjoy my interview with Dr Daniel aan on

how to change your life by changing your

brain you want a drip dopamine don't

dump it because when you dump it with

the fries and the alcohol the porn you

don't have much left and so so then you

have to

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