Megyn Kelly Breaks Down Why the Case Against James Comey is STRONGER Than the Media Makes it Seem
By Megyn Kelly
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Comey Indicted for Lying to Congress**: James Comey faces a two-page indictment alleging he willfully and knowingly lied to Congress on September 30, 2020, by denying he authorized an FBI employee to be an anonymous source in news reports. [00:05] - **Comey's 2017 Testimony Under Oath**: In May 2017, James Comey testified under oath to Senator Chuck Grassley that he had never authorized anyone at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports regarding the Trump or Clinton investigations. [01:42] - **Comey's 2020 Reaffirmation to Ted Cruz**: In September 2020, James Comey reaffirmed his previous testimony to Ted Cruz, stating his assertions that he had not leaked information or authorized others to leak about FBI investigations remained the same. [03:55], [05:28] - **Evidence of Comey Using Daniel Richmond to Leak**: Evidence suggests Comey used Daniel Richmond, an FBI special governmental employee from June 2015 to February 2017, to leak information to the media about the Hillary Clinton email investigation. [02:54], [06:53] - **Comey's Alias and Press Manipulation**: James Comey used a burner Gmail account under the alias 'Reinhold Niebuhr' to correspond with Daniel Richmond, appearing to orchestrate leaks to shape media narratives and portray his actions favorably. [07:50], [10:07] - **Comey's October 2016 Letter and Media Strategy**: Comey's October 28, 2016, letter about new emails was strategically timed before the election, and his communications with Richmond suggest an effort to influence media coverage and manage public perception. [08:47], [11:40]
Topics Covered
- Comey's alleged lies to Congress about FBI sources.
- Did Comey authorize leaks about Trump or Clinton investigations?
- Comey's testimony contradicts McCabe's claims on leaks.
- Evidence suggests Comey used an employee to leak to media.
- Comey's alias and communications about the Clinton email investigation.
Full Transcript
All right, we've got something very
interesting to start with today.
The case against James Comey just got a
lot hotter. So, he's moved to have it
dismissed just to set the scene for our
audience. Okay, there's a two-page
indictment against him. It's pretty
straightforward. And they allege in the
Eastern District of Virginia that honor
about September 30th, 2020, James Comey
willfully and knowingly lied lied to
Congress, telling a US senator that he,
James Comey, had not authorized someone
at the FBI to be an anonymous source in
news reports regarding an FBI
investigation.
Um, okay. So, that's basically what the
whole thing is based on, and there's
really not much more to the indictment
than that. two counts that we think are
based on just that one allegation that
he lied to Congress in September of
2020. Now, in September 2020, what
they're really what what happened was in
an exchange with Ted Cruz, Jim Comey
reaffirmed testimony he gave to Chuck
Grassly three years earlier in 2017
and doubled down on those assertions
that he had not leaked to the media
about an FBI investigation and he had
not authorized a person at the FBI to
leak to the media about any
investigation into Trump or Hillary. And
I'm just going to play you those
testimonials just so we're really clear.
All right. First, we're we're going to
go in chronological order because
they're both at issue very much in this
case against him. Here he is in 17,
2017.
Uh the date was May 3rd,
speaking under oath to Senator Chuck
Grassley. Listen. Director Comey, have
you ever been an anonymous source in
news reports about matters relating to
the Trump investigation or the Clinton
investigation?
>> Never.
>> Have you ever authorized someone else at
the FBI to be an anonymous source in
news reports about the Trump
investigation or the Clinton
investigation?
>> No.
Has any classified information relating
to President Trump or his association
associates been declassified
or and shared with the media?
>> Not to my knowledge.
>> Okay. So, it's that middle question that
is at issue. He very clearly testified.
Yeah. The question was, "Have you ever
been an anonymous sorry, have you ever
authorized someone else at the FBI to be
an anonymous source in news reports
about the Trump investigation or the
Hillary investigation?" Answer: No. Now,
that was May 3rd, 2017,
which was just a couple months after the
period of June 2015 through February
2017, where his good friend Daniel
Richmond, who was a Colombia law
professor, had been deputized by Comey
to act as a special governmental
employee at the FBI on Comey's behalf,
who he used to both advise him, James
Comey, and now we do know to leak to the
media. Okay, so this testimonial to
Grassly was post that you know year and
a half period where he had been using
Daniel Richmond to leak to the media. So
it would appear to be a very clear lie.
He had been using him. He'd been using
him for a year and a half. And the guy
had been an employee at the FBI, special
governmental employee, and that's what
Grassly asked. Ever authorized someone
else at the FBI to be an anonymous
source in news reports about Trump
investigation or Hillary? So he said
that he said in May of 17, "No, never
did." Then Ted Cruz, it's a little
convoluted. Hold on to your armrests
there,
gets them to double down on it three
years later in 2020, September 2020. And
the only reason they use the September
2020 exchange with Cruz as the basis for
the indictment is because the 17
exchange is barred as time limited. The
5-year statute of limitations on that
lie ran out. But he renewed his lie to
Ted Cruz. It's more convoluted, but it's
there. I urge you to listen to this
exchange, but pay attention most
importantly to the last part of it.
Listen. On May 3rd, 2017
in this committee, Chairman Grassley
asked you point blank, quote, "Have you
ever been an anonymous source in news
reports about matters relating to the
Trump investigation or the Clinton
investigation?" You responded under
oath quote "Never."
He then asked you, quote, "Have you ever
authorized someone else at the FBI to be
an anonymous source in news reports
about the Trump investigation or the
Clinton administration?" You responded
again under oath, no. Now, as you know,
Mr. McCabe, who works for you, has
publicly and repeatedly stated that he
leaked information to the Wall Street
Journal and that you were a directly
aware of it and that you directly
authorized it. Now, what Mr. McCabe is
saying and what you testified to this
committee cannot both be true. One or
the other is false. Who's telling the
truth?
I can only speak to my testimony. I
stand by what the testimony you
summarized that I gave in May of 2017.
>> So your testimony is you've never
authorized anyone to leak and Mr. McCabe
when if he says contrary is not telling
the truth. Is that correct?
>> Again, I'm not going to characterize
Andy's testimony, but mine is the same
today.
mine is the same today,
which is a very good hook for
prosecutors to say.
Not only did he reaffirm the testimony
as of 2017, but he expanded it from 2017
forward to 2020. So, both time periods
would be covered where James Comey is on
the record saying he never authorized
someone to leak on his behalf um while
at the FBI. Okay, that's that's clearly
his testimony. Um, in any event, there's
no doubt he stood by that Grassly
testimony, at least through his
testimony on May 3rd, 2017. They they
So, if he did authorize somebody to leak
for him at the FBI prior to May 3rd,
2017, they've got him. They've got him.
And we were speculating when the
indictment first came out, who's he talk
who's the indictment even talking about?
You heard, you know, Ted Cruz there was
talking about Andy McCabe who worked for
him. Was Was that who it was? Or was it
somebody else? Was it the Trump
investigation? Was it the Hillary? Who
knows? And now it appears, I mean, I
don't want to limit them, but it appears
that at least we have clear evidence
that Comey did use Daniel Richmond, who
was an employee of the FBI again from
June 2015 through February 2017, to leak
to the media about the Hillary Clinton
email investigation
prior to the time he denied it under
oath to Chuck Grassley. The reason I say
that is today in the news is an
explosive report from John Solomon based
on documents provided by Cash Patel at
the FBI that they found at the FBI that
show correspondence between James Comey
and Daniel Richmond, his BFF and
employee for that year and a half,
making clear Comey wanted Richmond to
leak and that Richmond did then act as
an anonymous source. source to the New
York Times and possibly others. All
right, and we'll just go through a
couple of them. First, he points out uh
this is Mike Davis summarizing some of
it. Comey had a burner Gmail,
which he named himself Reinhold Neber. I
don't know who that is, Victor. You're a
historian. Does that name ring a bell to
you?
>> Yes, it does. He was a very famous
Protestant um clergyman, public
intellectual in the United States. He's
this he was the father of Elizabeth
Sipton the head editor for a while at
Alfred Canoff and at one time my book
editor so it's kind of a coincidence you
asked that but he was very well known
that as a voice of morality in America
>> so you I love that you knew that yeah
sanctimonious Comey would always try to
identify with a higher moral authority
>> okay so there that he that's his alias
and he's corresponding with his BFF
Daniel Richmond and Um,
okay. I'm going to try to make this
clear. It's not that easy. Hold on.
First,
just to set the scene for the audience
again, it was October 28th, 2016 that
Comey wrote a letter um saying that the
FBI had discovered new emails relevant
to the Hillary Clinton use of private
email servers. That was just like a few
days before the election. That was the f
like in July of 2016, Comey came out and
he was like, "Hillary sucks. She has a
private homebrew server. It's very
problematic, but we're not going to
indict her because we can't meet certain
elements of a crime. And Republicans
were pissed like she should be indicted.
Then October comes around and we're just
like a week before the vote now and he
says, "Ah, we found more emails on
Anthony Weiner's laptop who's married to
Huma Amad Abadin who was um Hillary's
right-hand person." And then the
Democrats lost their mind saying he's
this is election interference by the FBI
which is works for the DOJ days before
an election and Comey's like I had to
tell people I kind of exonerated her in
July and then just before the election
now I find all these other emails and
look I I felt a moral obligation to tell
America we did find other stuff and you
can hear him. He's upset because then
the left-wing press went nuts on him and
the left-wing press was important to
James Comey who wanted them to love him.
And what he's doing is using Daniel
Richmond to massage the press into
thinking Comey was moral like you point
out like like this Reinhold Nubber neber
that he was he did the right thing and
he's writing to his BFF here
um about how look you know I I did
something noble uh saying first first
his friend says do you want me to
respond basically and And then Comey
responds from his burner account, "No
need. At this point, it would be
shouting into the wind. Someday they'll
figure it out. And as Jack and Ben point
out, my I don't know who that is. My
decision will be one a presidentelect
Clinton will be very grateful for."
Though that wasn't why I did it. So,
he's anticipating Hillary's going to win
and that ultimately after she wins,
she'll forgive him for doing the October
thing. The next day, Daniel Richmond
sent Comey an email regarding an op-ed
he'd been asked to write for the New
York Times about the Comey letter
regarding Hillary's emails. Richmond
stated he was not inclined to write
something, but that he would if Comey
thought it would help things to explain
that the defendant owed Congress
absolute cander and that Comey's
credibility with Congress could be would
be particularly important in the coming
years of threatened congressional
investigations. That's when Comey wrote
back, "No need. it would be shouting
into the wind someday they'll figure it
out and Hillary Clinton president-elect
will be very grateful for me having done
this then Comey appears to have
reconsidered that view very shortly
thereafter alleges the government on
November 1st 2016 he emailed Daniel
Richmond again saying when I read the
times coverage involving reporter 1 I'm
left with a sense that they don't
understand the significance of my having
spoken about this case in July it
changes the entire analysis this meaning
he's like his point is having said
something in July about how she should
be she can't be charged I owed it to the
public to to update my statements in
October when I found the Anthony Weiner
laptop and then he says to Daniel
Richmond perhaps you can make him
smarter and Comey goes on about why he's
so noble and this needs to be explained
to the press my inactivity was not an
option here the choices were act to
reveal or act to conceal Richmond
respond s the next day stating, "This is
precisely the case I made to them and
thought they understood I was quite
wrong. Indeed, I went further and said
mindless allegiance to the policy and
recognition that more evidence could
come in would have counseledled silence
in July to have let Hillary twist in the
wind." Richmond emailed Comey shortly
thereafter, writing, "I just got the
point home to reporter one, who we think
was Michael Schmid of the New York
Times, probably was rougher than you
would have been." Then Comey emails
Richmond shortly thereafter entitling
the message pretty good, sending a link
to the New York Times piece regarding
the defendants Comey's purported options
in late October 2016 about the Clinton
email investigation. Comey wrote,
"Someone showed some logic. I would
paint the cons that I was facing in not
disclosing more darkly, but not bad." So
this clearly he says to Richmond here,
Victor, perhaps you can make him smarter
in writing this piece. Then he writes
the piece and we have the piece by the
way from the New York Times where they
weigh exactly what Comey had to do with
the pros and the cons. And Richmond
says, "Okay, I just got the point home.
I was rougher than you would have been."
And then Comey forwards him the piece
saying, "Someone shows some logic."
forwarding the piece to him with which
Richmond participated at Comey's behest.
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