She Accuses 40% Of Men Of Being GR@PISTS And RAGEQUITS!

Wait, question. Would you rather be alone or would you rather come across in the forest a man or a bear? Which do you pick?

>> A bear.

>> So, you're a misandress. You're a man hater.

>> I'm not a man hater.

>> Let me tell you why. Because let me ask.

You think there's a there's a your risk assessment here is that you're going to get essayed by men to the point where you would rather be in the forest with a wild bear than with a man. Is that

correct? Is that fair?

>> Sure.

Okay. So, what percentage of men do you think in this in this situation would choose to victimize you? What percentage

of men?

>> What do you mean >> you Okay. In this hypothetical, you choose bear over men, right? So, your

risk assessment would seem to indicate that you think a high percentage of men >> Oh, I see. Okay.

>> So, what percentage of men would victimize you? I'm not sure I can come

victimize you? I'm not sure I can come up with the percentage because my guess my my Well, let me just say first my reason for coming to this conclusion of a bear is because when I first think of Yeah, I guess risk assessment I would

rather take my chances with >> I can run the I actually have an experiment for this.

>> Wait, but let me just >> No, I I want to hear this.

>> Hold on. No, no, no. Let's finish this really quick. Okay.

really quick. Okay.

>> How what percentage of men do you think would victimize you in this scenario?

[clears throat and cough] >> I know the answer.

Oh, there's like a statistical answer.

>> No, it's 50/50 always.

>> Oh my. What do you >> Why don't we let her answer?

>> 40%.

>> Okay. So, knowing that the adult male po well the male population of the United States is something like I think 160 million. 40% what would what would that

million. 40% what would what would that be? That would be uh not quite 80

be? That would be uh not quite 80 million men. Let's say that. So, you

million men. Let's say that. So, you

think 70 million You think 70 million men in the United States would choose to uh >> No, because I changed it to 30%.

>> Still, I still find this incredibly objectionable.

Incredibly objectionable because there's currently one, two, three, four, [snorts] five men, sorry, my math's [ __ ] terrible, in the studio. Okay. So, two

of the men in the studio are rapists. Is

that what you're saying?

>> I'm not saying they're rapists. I'm just

saying I'd probably rather be in a forest with a bear than men that I don't know or trust because I could end up getting I mean it's even like a conversation sometimes. I just don't

conversation sometimes. I just don't want >> Have you ever had the one night stand?

>> Yes.

>> How many one night stands have you had?

>> One.

>> H interesting how that works. Um

>> what do you mean by that?

>> Well, I mean you you you were alone with a man.

>> Yeah. I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm okay with that or that I like it was a great decision. I regret it.

great decision. I regret it.

>> Right. But it was consensual. Right.

Okay.

It's just interesting. Women will like hook up with the dudes, meet up with them, no issues. You pass by hundreds, if not thousands of men all the time.

None of them do anything to you. But you

have this bias against men. That's

interesting.

>> I don't have a bias.

>> It's absolutely Hold on. How is

[clears throat] it not a bias where you think 30% of men and you originally said 40, you think 30% of men are inclined to violence or sexual assault to towards

you?

>> Yeah.

>> Living donated $200.

>> That's a bias.

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Appreciate it.

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Women says that she hates men. You go,

girl. Slay queen. Man says he hates women. And everyone loses their minds.

women. And everyone loses their minds.

seems like Schroding is feminist to me.

>> Hold on. Hold on.

>> I would like to separate the bear versus man argument with my my dislike towards his comment because I'm not coming from a a place of [ __ ] all men. Like I hate

all men because that's not how I feel. I

think a lot of men are great and awesome. But I also think that

awesome. But I also think that that's a totally different comment to make to say >> Wait, you think all men are inclined to violence, murder, and essay?

>> No, no, no, no. Not all men. I think

more more men than more% more men than women. I would take my chance.

women. I would take my chance.

>> But it's enough. Hold on. But even

though the percentage chance of you being with a man who wouldn't do these things is greater, >> it's enough men, enough men that you

would rather take a path that lands you in a forest, not with a man. Mike Davis

said, "I've tried to see the good side of women, but I'm done with these disgusting creatures." Right? And he

disgusting creatures." Right? And he

says, "Keep females away from me." Isn't

this just sort of essentially the mirror of what you're saying by picking the bear?

>> No, you >> absolutely. It absolutely is.

>> absolutely. It absolutely is.

>> Yes.

>> All right, then. Sure, he's valid in his comment. Great. I think what he said was

comment. Great. I think what he said was awesome. And I do think

awesome. And I do think >> Why aren't any of the ladies disavowing your statement?

>> What do you mean?

>> You think 30% of men would be inclined to violence towards you?

>> I don't know the statistics. That's just

how I feel.

>> Yes, that's how you feel.

>> Okay. It's still an objectionable thing.

>> How many men are in prison because of essay?

>> A lot.

>> How many though?

>> A lot.

>> Exactly.

>> Yeah.

>> The better question.

>> What percentage of men are in >> Oh, it's a very low percent.

>> My thing is I I think more men are worse than more women. But does that does not make the majority of men that does not make not worse. I think less I'm taking you're taking >> You're saying there's more worse men

than there are worse women. more men

have done have done essay have done murders have done rapes compared to women. It's statistically proven. I

women. It's statistically proven. I

don't know the statistics off the top of my head. But that does not mean that I

my head. But that does not mean that I think that the majority of men are evil.

This is this is an apex fallacy. First

of all, so okay, criminality is a very very small proportion of the population.

So to say that I'm going to have this sort of blanket assessment of men due to a small proportion of some men's criminality, you you're attributing to the group the actions of a small

fraction.

>> This would be the same argument towards racism.

>> So that would be the same argument you would make in reverse for rac Yeah.

Sure. So if you were to say, okay, a small percentage of the population, which happens to be this race, conducts x amount of crimes, you would immediately look for ulterior reasons why they were criminals absent the race,

right?

>> Okay.

>> But how come you won't do that when it comes to men, right?

>> Okay. No, that's that's a good argument.

>> Yeah. Wouldn't that be this? It's the

same thing in reverse, isn't it?

I >> think on that one, too. You you're

coming back with some good arguments.

I'll say >> it's so sad that you feel scared by sense of the men. This is so sad.

[laughter] And actually the better question is like like why the young woman feels like that? Why she scares of the 30 Pro of the men?

>> Because they've been indoctrinated and brainwashed.

>> Sure.

>> Or maybe it's happened before in the past.

>> Maybe it's happened like personally like >> Yes.

>> Yeah.

>> Family.

>> This is a good question. You know,

>> we don't want to be scared of you. Even

Even if it were to have happened to everybody here at the table, >> hang on. Even if it were to have happened to everybody at this table, that every woman here was in some way assaulted by a man in a sexual way and

none of the men here were ever sexually assaulted by a woman in any way, that would mean nothing.

>> How that that we would not be such coincidence that >> we would not be able to we how would you ever extrapolate that into anything? So,

it's just coincidence that if all the women here were essayed that they would just happen to be here at the same time and all of the men that hadn't were here as well.

>> Well, I mean it okay well let's think about it for a second, right?

>> Um there's more women here than there are men, right?

>> Yeah.

>> Okay. Why is that? Is there a reason for it?

>> Cuz you want to argue with us >> so that men and can say we're disgusting.

>> Whatever Whatever the reason is, right, there's definitely reasons behind why that is the case.

Right.

>> So you're saying if all of us were essayed we're >> like you wouldn't just say you're all here coincidentally and I wouldn't just say all the men are here coincidentally.

Like there was mechanisms delusional.

>> No, I'm saying there's mechanisms which moved us all into place, right?

>> And so the question is is like even if all of this had happened, >> right? It doesn't give us or give us a

>> right? It doesn't give us or give us a tell as to the mechanism for why it happened, >> right? could be with this particular

>> right? could be with this particular sample size, for instance, that because you're all around the same age group, you're more prone and in a propensity to be in situations where such a thing does happen. Whereas we could get the same

happen. Whereas we could get the same exact group of women from a different demographic joke and they have absolutely none of those things, right? So, you can't really just kind of say, well, even if

it had happened to everybody here that we could extrapolate that out to mean something meaningful.

>> It's because we are beautiful and because we are horse. Yeah, that's No, I'm not I'm not I'm not >> I mean like >> but something you're talking about is that men are essayed by women too and there's a very high percentage of that.

>> Yes, there is.

>> So like when we're >> far more than is far more than is ever talked about yet. Like if we're generalizing each gender and just saying basically you guys are saying women have

it worse like that is what I'm hearing and yeah women have it bad but so do men and men are more likely to [clears throat]

you know because that things aren't spoken about and it is so highly happens so much with men and it's just not spoken about. It's just passed over like

spoken about. It's just passed over like it's nothing.

>> Well that's certainly a fair point. Um

but uh did you get an answer from on this or >> uh well no no not really I was just saying so this just from my brain right

is like if you say well could this all just be coincidence that all of us here think yeah it could right because there's going to be mechanisms which drive things and so that's why when we do sample sizes you pull them from

different demographics different backgrounds different you know what I mean that way you can draw commonalities um so that you can extract data correctly like just you know few women sitting at a table who say this is my

experience even if all the experiences map up it doesn't actually tell us anything >> I I do want to ask a question >> how well like how could it >> like you could agree that I could set out that even if this thing a bad thing

had happened to every single woman here that we could take a completely different even random sample size from the street and put the same exact women here and it's more than possible that nothing ever happened to any of them

>> I wouldn't say it's more than possible >> yeah it's Not more than possible. I

mean, I don't know.

>> Why is it not more? Why? I'm sorry. What

in the world would make that not possible?

>> Can I like get my phone to do a fact check? Because I've seen somewhere a

check? Because I've seen somewhere a statistic that says like it's over half of women that have been essayed or whatever by >> even if that's true, let's say it was 90%. You could still draw randomly from

90%. You could still draw randomly from the street, get a same nine sample and still not one of those women had ever been essayed.

>> Okay?

>> Right. Yes. So, we can't So, that's why I'm saying you can't draw like kind of those conclusions when you say, "Is that just a coincidence?" Well, yeah, it could be. It could literally just be a

could be. It could literally just be a coincidence. Of course.

coincidence. Of course.

>> Okay. You can have fears from personal experience. She wasn't arguing that.

experience. She wasn't arguing that.

>> I >> No, she was. She said, "Is that just a coincidence?"

coincidence?" >> I don't Is that just a What does that mean? What is is Is that just a

mean? What is is Is that just a coincidence?

>> You're nitpicky. You're nitpicking on little words.

>> No, it's not a nitpick.

>> Yes.

>> How is it a nitpick?

>> She just say it like that and you just catch it. So yeah, you catch that one

catch it. So yeah, you catch that one thing >> that bastard like do you realize that people people's thought patterns the way that they think and the way that they discuss things they hinge on pillars

>> and pillars are usually assumptions right they hinge on assumptions so yes I lock in on the hinge the pillar that holds the idea wait I'm sorry I have to

interrupt this I I don't like to let certain things just slide what was the stat that you just quoted >> well I asked if I could pull it up I don't have that you said you I think

it's over 50% of women.

>> Yeah, I think I know the stat she's referring to. It's like you It's like at

referring to. It's like you It's like at colleges they say over 50% of women have but then but then when you look into it it's like >> Why don't you tell us what you heard?

>> I I told you I don't have it off the top of my head. I have to look it up. But

it's something about like half or more than half of women >> have been what?

>> Essay or raped or >> what? So when you say essay,

>> what? So when you say essay, what does that include?

anything unconsensual that is where they've been touched without that.

>> So if a man were to tap >> What do you mean? What is that?

>> If a man were to tap a woman on the shoulder, is that essay?

>> No, >> it's unconsensual.

>> Sexual.

>> Okay.

>> Yeah. So it's it's >> Well, >> yeah. Like sexual touching.

>> yeah. Like sexual touching.

>> I have a question. Um

>> sexual touching without consent.

>> Yes.

>> And much of that can be perception.

>> It could be harassment.

>> Well, hang on. But much of that could be perception. So like let me give you an

perception. So like let me give you an example.

If a if a guy is sitting at a party, he's drinking, a woman walks over and just like randomly starts rubbing his shoulders, right? I've seen this many

shoulders, right? I've seen this many times. Um, nobody's nobody says [ __ ]

times. Um, nobody's nobody says [ __ ] right? However, that's definitely sexual

right? However, that's definitely sexual touching. He definitely hasn't consented

touching. He definitely hasn't consented to. It's just nobody gives a [ __ ]

to. It's just nobody gives a [ __ ] >> Mhm.

>> Let's switch it. Woman sitting at a party, right? Doesn't know the guy. He

party, right? Doesn't know the guy. He

run he walks over and just starts rubbing her shoulders.

Do you do you think that that would become problematic? I think it's odd,

become problematic? I think it's odd, but I personally if some guy did that to me, I just be like, "What?" Like, I don't know. I wouldn't to me that

don't know. I wouldn't to me that wouldn't. Sure. But if a woman said,

wouldn't. Sure. But if a woman said, "Okay, wait a second. That that was that was sexual touching without my consent."

Would you agree with her?

>> I wouldn't agree with her, but I wouldn't look her in the face and say, >> you wouldn't say, you wouldn't say no, right? You wouldn't say no. And so

right? You wouldn't say no. And so

that's that's the distinction that's being talked about here is that wait a second. The reason we clarify these

second. The reason we clarify these terms and we want them specific is because it's very clear to me that when women in an unwanted way touch men just nobody gives a [ __ ] They just don't care.

>> I do. I think I'm not trying to minimize the amount of essay that men experience like >> Yeah. Right. But but but this way the

>> Yeah. Right. But but but this way the classification matters >> because I'm not sure I would consider that essay. Right.

that essay. Right.

>> No, I mean I agree with you. That's

interesting. I'm not trying to minimize, >> but you realize how many of these kind of like tortured studies and stats you would look at where the assumption of essay is is that they would consider those categories even though they maybe

don't belong there.

>> Even worse like wolf wolf whistling is >> and if I I will touch you now when we will go to smoke a cigarettes. This is

called is a s or >> you realize you like so when you went back there to smoke a cigarette did you note that I took a wide path went all the way around you never went anywhere

near you and came in just to avoid such such uh a thing from even happening.

>> No I didn't see >> I know you don't have to worry about it.

[laughter] >> That's the difference.

>> I love it. You watch your back bro.

>> You don't have to go smoke a [laughter] cigarette.

>> You don't have to worry about it.

>> Guess what? But guess what? We will call it as a sexual assment or we do we do have to worry about it.

>> Will it's called a sexual assessment or no?

>> I I mean who knows who but because the because the criteria because the criteria is so gray.

>> It's not really known to me or clear to me what could be considered assault or >> living donated $200.

>> Holy crap. I've technically been essayed several times in my life.

>> You probably have. I don't report any of them. Society doesn't notice casual

them. Society doesn't notice casual women essaying. Also, bear versus black

women essaying. Also, bear versus black man or black man versus white man.

>> I'm more scared of a white man.

>> I love white man.

>> Why would you be more scared of a white man?

>> So now, not only are you a sexist, but you're also racist.

>> Yeah. Just instant by category. But but

you see what I mean when I say like it's not when you when you ask a question to me, it's not altogether clear without very specific criteria.

uh as to what that could even mean because I think that yes, I could be brought up on charges for potentially brushing up against a woman even without having any unoured anything towards her.

I just happen to not not think twice. I

was just walking by brushed up against her. Do I think it's within the realm of

her. Do I think it's within the realm of possibility? I do. And that's the part

possibility? I do. And that's the part men always have to think about that seems like women as they think that men are hyper predatory, right? And now the distance has just the gap has grown and grown and grown because you know why

it's growing.

>> Yeah, it's not your turn. Hang on. So

[laughter] this is this is why right now now that we have to think about that all the time you see this distance and this gap widen >> and it's specifically because if you if you look at it like the example I gave

with the shoulder rubbing, right? You're

like >> yeah no that's really not essay. But if

she said it was, you're like I would tell her no. And so that's why it's not altogether clear to me. It really is.

>> Also, we we had a girl on the show. I

think you were on this panel, Andrew.

>> Uh >> Well, I had a girl on a show take off her, you know, clothes and like assault me with her with her. Yeah. So,

>> that's not what I was going to talk about, but um >> there was a girl who who was we were having this conversation and she said there was a study done here at the local

university and that uh it included cat calling that fell within the purview of essay.

>> Yeah, I was on that show, I think.

>> Or were you on that show? So I I find these studies that they do, it includes all sorts of things all the way from sub, you know, benign or you know mild

harassment all the way to like forcible violent rape. And I find like

violent rape. And I find like encapsulating all of those things into this sort of nebulous term essay is not particularly helpful.

>> It inflates the numbers.

>> I agree. I'm not

>> right. like when we're having this conversation and it's it's uh I suppose sort some sort of framing where you're

saying like the the listener is going to interpret over 50% of women are at like full-blown forcibly in the [ __ ] they're walking down a staircase

somewhere some random man just starts beating them up and like rapes them.

>> That's not what I said.

>> Okay. Well, I'm just curious and I don't know if this is a bit inappropriate of a question, but I think y'all were like you were saying like I bet every single woman here at this table has been essayed.

>> I didn't say that.

>> You said you were though, >> right?

>> Right.

>> Okay. So, uh just I'm just curious. I'm

not going to ask the details. Who here

has been as hit?

>> Okay.

[laughter] Wait, sorry. Just show of hands again.

Wait, sorry. Just show of hands again.

Oh, it's a it's a you're wondering how many times this is. Hold on. Oh, that's

crazy.

>> Well, no. Here's the thing. You can't

use that as an argument because because a lot of women feel feel not validated in what it is.

>> That's right. They feel

>> Wait, I do have a followup question.

It's not >> I do I do have a followup question.

Allow me. Allow me to do the followup question first. Stop. Stop. Stop. Okay.

question first. Stop. Stop. Stop. Okay.

>> Those of you who raised your hand, did you go to the police?

>> No. Couldn't.

>> No. No. No. Did you? Yes, you went to the police.

>> Does that mean >> Wait, hold on. Is this the guy who the the choking thing? [clears throat]

>> There was separate instant.

>> There was a Okay. And then did you go to the police?

>> Okay, >> that was it. That was my question.

>> And so you're saying because we didn't go to the police.

>> No, I'm not saying anything. I don't

know what happened.

>> I just don't go.

>> And did you go to the police?

>> So I'll tell you I'll tell you the term, right? No, they would laugh me out of

right? No, they would laugh me out of the building, >> right? They'd laugh me out of the

>> right? They'd laugh me out of the building. Even though it was clear on

building. Even though it was clear on video, they would laugh me.

>> They would laugh me out of the building.

It's not It's not even It's not even an option for us. But the thing is is like, >> so to so to kind of dive into this, >> all all Brian's trying to say is like if you have this kind of hyperinflated

number, which would include things like cat calling or things which clearly are not sexual assault, right?

>> Uh these should be in kind of totally different categories.

the same is to inflate the number.

So if that is the case then you can even see like kind of with your raar feminism that pops out really quick.

>> Say have a raar >> well you did and I'll explain I'll explain where I saw it. I'll explain

I'll explain the exact moment that I saw the raw feminism. It was when Brian or when I said, "Yes, I feel." And you and you gonna invalidate. Well, yeah. And

here's why. You have to invalidate feelings for proof and evidence with clear criteria because otherwise, how do we get the actual number, right? You

like I couldn't just say, "Do you feel like you were sick?"

>> Right? I mean, then in court, it wouldn't hold up, but it's not just look someone in the face and say, "Well, then it didn't happen." But it can't but it can't really hold up external to that either because you're a number who would

never make it into the stats absent court, right? Cuz you never went to

court, right? Cuz you never went to court. So then so then but you would be

court. So then so then but you would be counted in this number. So how would we prove that? How could we falsify that

prove that? How could we falsify that other than >> you can't >> you can't, right? You can't. So this is why when people say believe all women, it sounds to me like [ __ ] >> I don't think that's true. No, I I disagree.

>> Yeah. Sounds to me like total absurdity because it's like by your kind of your own metrics >> you invalidate the very thing that we're supposed to believe.

>> Well then do you not feel that there's a discrepancy between the in the categories of what essay is um you know you even said like the shoulder rubbing so that do you not think there's like a kind of an equal number of the people

who are counted in that statistic who weren't actually or you know it wasn't as intense or something that we wouldn't consider essay compared to the number of women who aren't actually counted in that statistic.

>> Yeah. So this is a really difficult question because uh what you're talking about soft science is science is only as effective as you have controls, right?

>> And that's why hard science works really well and why the replication crisis affects soft sciences so badly.

>> And so without great controls, which means great criteria, we're just speculating ultimately, right? And so

that's why when I hear kind of these torture numbers thrown out of >> ah, you know, uh most men could be predatory or most women have experienced SA and this and that. It's it seems to me that that's not very clear and that

the controls are not very good and that we're mostly going off of self-reports, not court reports.

>> Right.

>> And so, yeah, I'm not I'm just not willing to kind of concede that that's true. Right.

true. Right.

>> Okay.

>> And and I mean, I don't you seem reasonable. I don't even think you

reasonable. I don't even think you would, right? If that if you find out

would, right? If that if you find out that is indeed the case, wouldn't you kind of have to like readjust your positioning and thought process around it?

>> Can you or specify re restate your question?

>> Yeah. So like if if you found out that wait there's really soft controls here and we can't really know we don't really know we don't really know the answer to these questions >> maybe then I would reconsider. Yeah

>> that's all I'm asking you to do is just like reconsider possib the opposite possibility >> that there's perhaps been a lot of brainwashing >> designed specifically to be divisive to make men look

>> why do you think they would want to make men look worse? Well, because I think that uh a lot of these control studies are done by very progressive and very feminist operated universities. And I

think that they're not trying to solve for a real hard scientific answer, but rather they're trying to only get at the heart of kind of the ideology that they're trying to promote. And so

they'll make the data fit the ideology rather than moving the ideology around the data.

>> Okay.

[clears throat] >> We can believe on it. What's that?

>> We can believe on it. Yeah, it sound realistically.

>> I don't want to quite lay off quite yet.

You said something about white men. What

was the statement there?

>> You You said you would >> ah she's scared of the white dudes more.

If I were given two random men, one was black and one was white and I was I'm not saying that >> say, >> okay, I don't think you can be racist towards a white person. I will say that.

>> Oh boy. Okay. Um, but so so you would prefer what >> a black man over a white man >> to be >> like in the same room with to trust to be in the forest.

>> Oh, you're agreeing with me. Okay. I

thought you were [laughter] going to disagree. I was good.

disagree. I was good.

>> I'm agree. Of course.

>> [laughter] >> Okay. Um, wait. So, hold on.

>> Okay. Um, wait. So, hold on.

>> Because they harmless >> here. Let's explore the

>> here. Let's explore the >> like dudes are harmless. I don't think anyone's harmless.

>> Ah, why it's more dangerous? Yeah, of

course. All the

>> Wait, can I ask you a question? A couple

things. Okay, so if we were to >> scared >> if if someone was to say, I would feel more comfortable in a room with a white person over a black person, would that

be a racist statement?

>> Unfortunately, no.

You can't you can't use the argument though about >> because there's a whole history behind that.

>> Yeah. So what

>> what do you mean?

>> What do you mean? So what?

>> Well, let's just let's assume >> I mean white the white man has has always been the oppressor regardless.

>> Sure. Well, I'm just going to I'm just going to grant it.

>> I want to have this conversation.

>> I'm I'm literally just going to grant it. I'm going to I'm in fact, we'll just

it. I'm going to I'm in fact, we'll just pretend that um that black men and women were freed only yesterday, 24 hours ago.

Okay, they've only 24 hours they've had their freedom. Okay, how would this

their freedom. Okay, how would this statement in any way make sense to say I would feel more comfortable in a room with a black man versus a white man or a

white man versus a black man? Uh, how is that not a preconceived notion still based around race?

>> Can you condense that question again?

>> How is it not a preconceived notion still based around race to say I would feel more comfortable around this racial group than this one? How's that not >> I think it's a racial notion, but I don't I I just think because my belief

that you can't be racist against a white person that's your belief to >> but what is it founded on? I just I just granted that it was just yesterday. It

just only happened yesterday.

>> I mean that makes it even more valid. I

think >> sure what's the validity though of saying I have a preconceived notion about a racial group and so therefore based on the preconceived not hang on hang on let me finish the question

first. based on the preconceived notion

first. based on the preconceived notion of this racial group, I select this one because I think that I'll be safer around them. But if you flip it and say,

around them. But if you flip it and say, "Okay, but but I agree. I agree with that. Just for me, it's whites."

that. Just for me, it's whites."

In what world would that not be racial on both ends or racist on both ends?

>> Maybe. Okay. Maybe it is a little >> maybe >> prejudice. Is that

>> prejudice. Is that >> maybe? But I I don't think

>> maybe? But I I don't think >> Hold on. Let me just We'll pursue this.

But really quick power dynamics had a lot to do with it.

>> Hold on really quick though. Really

quick. Okay. Let's remove the term racism from this and let's talk about what you find objectionable. So do you think if somebody would rather be in a room alone with a black person over the

white person, is this an objectionable position to hold? Which is it's your position by the way.

>> Is it is it objectionable? is what

objectionable?

>> What does it mean?

>> Okay, I'm sorry. It's a lot to pro I mean it's like pretty fast.

>> You're not that smart like you guys.

>> So, >> do you find it objectionable for somebody and this is your position for somebody to say I would rather be in a room alone with a black person over a

white person? Objectionable?

white person? Objectionable?

>> Yes. Wait, objectionable? I'm sorry. I

>> So, you object to your own position.

>> What does it mean objectionable?

>> No, no, no, no.

Don't don't weasle your way out of this one. Okay. Do you think it's problematic

one. Okay. Do you think it's problematic that position?

>> What position to think that?

>> Well, your your position where you said focus and it's hard for me to stay on top of I feel like I've been on the spotlight for a bit now and I just we're exploring your worldview. So, okay, I'll repeat the question. I'll try to make it

as simple as possible. Okay. So, you

said you would feel more comfortable with a black man over a white man.

>> I did say that.

>> You said that. Okay. Um, and you you don't think that statement is objectionable correct?

>> No, I think it is a little bit.

>> Okay. Um, but then do you think it's more objectionable to say I would rather be with a white person over a black person? Is that a more objectionable

person? Is that a more objectionable position?

>> If I ask you to repeat the question, you're just going to roll your eyes and I'm telling you, I've told you four times already. I need to like we can go

times already. I need to like we can go back to me, but I just need like a like a break because I can't keep focusing.

I'm like I feel like my energ my focus has been sustained and I need to take a break. So, please respect that.

break. So, please respect that.

>> Do you want a Red Bull or something [laughter] or an energy drink?

>> You can take a little breather if you need.

>> Is that >> I just want to say I'm not really sure why people >> Oh, wait.

>> Wait. Are you leaving? No, she's okay.

Don't >> you can take a break if you want. That's

fine. If you need a little breather on that's fine.

>> Wait, what happened?

>> All good. Don't

you can be racist towards anybody.

Cognitive dissonance say that um that's what that looks like. It's very painful.

>> So cognitive dissonance is always very painful for people and that's what happens. They get very emotional. They

happens. They get very emotional. They

even men >> physical response.

>> Even men it becomes a very physical response when their worldview collides with reality.

But then why we scare of the white dudes more than the black dudes? It's because

of our [clears throat] experience.

>> You're right.

>> I don't even know why race is in the question though. Like

question though. Like >> why does it matter what the ethnicity is? If your whole point is that what she

is? If your whole point is that what she was saying was that she thinks that she would take the bear over a man >> if you feel that way. Why is race even an issue? She just said she'd rather

an issue? She just said she'd rather choose a bear over a man in general >> because of her experience. Do you

understand? Because of her experience.

here, guys. Let's not talk about stop.

Let's not talk about her while she's gone.