Streamer Culture Is A Time Bomb

I'm really starting to believe that the most dangerous thing on the planet is the psychological dynamics that we see happening in callergate. And you will

think, oh my god, these people are ignoring the reality of the situation.

They're ignoring the reality of the situation. They see a different reality.

situation. They see a different reality.

And this is the problem with the world today is we are all living in our own realities. There's no attempt at

realities. There's no attempt at understanding. It's only about winning.

understanding. It's only about winning.

So I think collargate is a great example of a lot of very interesting psychological dynamics that are at play

in the world today. And I'm going to talk about Colergate from the perspective of of those psychological dynamics, not the individuals involved or anything like that. It's not about like demonizing Hassan or defending

Hassan or anything like that. It's not

about the specifics of Colergate. It's

about don't you guys think it's weird that this one thing happened and then for the last two weeks this is the only thing that anyone on LSF is talking

about? Like what on earth is happening

about? Like what on earth is happening on the internet and in our lives where this is happening. That's what we're going to talk about. Some time ago, I don't know if you guys have been

following, there's a creator named Hassan and he had this video. Okay, it's

the same reason as to why America Ka, please just [ __ ] go. Just stop.

>> Right. So, so this is the clip that started caller gate. Assan streaming. He

gets frustrated with his dog. Apparently

touches a button. Um, his dog yelps and goes back to the bed or whatever. And

the first thing that I want y'all to notice is that this has 78,000 up votes. So, like, what on earth is

up votes. So, like, what on earth is going on here? So today what I want to talk about I I want to talk about colorgate not in the details and let me just like this is about understanding

what is happening to us on the internet and the reason that I want to talk about this so generally speaking like you know we have this like ethos here at healthy gamer that we talk to people we don't talk about people so this is not going

to be about about Hassan and whether he's guilty or whether he's a narcissist or whether it's real I'm not an investigative journalist I'm it's not my place to try to determine truth

of something. What I want to focus on

of something. What I want to focus on today is why this blows up and the way in which it blows up. Because, and this is what's kind of wild, I'm really

starting to believe that the most dangerous thing on the planet is the psychological dynamics that we see happening in Colergate. And we're going

to be talking about mentalization. We're

going to be talking about online radicalization. And we're going to be

radicalization. And we're going to be talking about a host of psychological things including displacement, projection, etc. And I think collar gate is also a really good example of how

people have stopped talking to each other. So if we look at the fundamental

other. So if we look at the fundamental structure of collargate, what is it?

It's some clip gets shown, right? A lot

of people make judgments based on the clip. This is a a 37 second clip that

clip. This is a a 37 second clip that causes this explosion. There's no

context. there's unclear levels of critical thinking and then what happens is everyone starts reacting to it right so we've got the original Hassan gate and then like sorry caller gate and then

we've got clips like this one right so then we have people like analyzing this like people like xQc >> trouble with that and of zapping and which was they moved away from the initial conversation which was that like

she didn't even have that collar on to begin with >> then what the [ __ ] is it wearing then okay then yo I got I got to The only way to get out of this new lie

which is obviously this this room and find this caller then in the room you're going to have to show.

>> Right. So there's all this business about the caller. Oh yeah. And then

there's like clips like this one. Okay.

>> Out of it >> where then people are like defending >> Hassan. Like it's only a vibrates. Like

>> Hassan. Like it's only a vibrates. Like

there's a setting for vibrate and there's a setting for No, no. There's no

shock. Like the electric prongs are taken out of it.

>> But here's my thing, right?

>> Like it's only a vibrates. Like there's

a setting for vibrate and there's a setting for shock.

>> That's a fact. That's a fact. So he

there's only the like since the prongs are in it only vibrate >> right so so whether is there a collar is there a collar or the setting are the prongs removed are they not removed so there's like a lot of people like talking across each other and the reason

that I'm talking about this is because this is not the only place this is happening if we look at the world we live in the amount of people talking across each other is increasing

exponentially and I'm really starting to believe that that is one of the core reasons why we are seeing so much strife and conflict in the world. So if you

look at like politics, we don't have places where people sit down and actually have a conversation. Even in

politics, we have these debates where it's like you get 3 minutes with a 90-cond rebuttal and 3 minutes with a 90-cond rebuttal. We have all kinds of

90-cond rebuttal. We have all kinds of people who are no longer talking to each other, right? They're talking to their

other, right? They're talking to their base. They're I'm talking to my base

base. They're I'm talking to my base over here. you're talking to your base

over here. you're talking to your base over there and we're just talking across each other and so it's it's sort of like there's no direct like dialogue and so we we've got like you know you can look at things like Gaza and stuff like that.

I'm not an expert in by any means and maybe it's a can of worms just to even mention it but like I think one of the things that I also saw with like this whole Ethan Klein Hassan thing, right, is like they [ __ ] make videos about

each other. I don't know if they just

each other. I don't know if they just don't sit down and have a conversation.

Maybe they did, you know, and we'll talk about ignorance in a second. So, I'm

really ignorant. This is another huge problem. No one says I don't know

problem. No one says I don't know anymore, right? Like, no one's like, I'm

anymore, right? Like, no one's like, I'm not sure what happened. So, when we see clips on the internet, these clips activate our emotions. And when our emotions get activated, whatever

thoughts get produced by our brain, we believe are true. Right? So, I I I want to show y'all something cuz this is actually super scary. So, then we've got these kind of memes of like Hassan being

[ __ ] Raiden and like shocking Lwig and Hassan. This is cutie holding this,

and Hassan. This is cutie holding this, but there's one of like, you know, Hassan like having Lwig on a leash and things like that. So, I I want y'all to think for a moment. And I'm curious what

y'all think. When you see a meme like

y'all think. When you see a meme like this, what do you think happens in your brain? What do you think is the effect

brain? What do you think is the effect of this in your brain from a neuroscience standpoint? Okay, this is

neuroscience standpoint? Okay, this is not like do you guys like it or not.

This is like what what is happening in your brain? Okay, so this is what's

your brain? Okay, so this is what's really scary, right? Everyone's like

lol. Fair enough. I enjoy a good meme.

Here's the crazy thing. When you get emotionally engaged with something, either you start to believe it more or you believe it less. There's no in between. So, like when people see these

between. So, like when people see these kinds of memes, it literally shapes your thinking. Hey y'all, if you're

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we start by understanding what literally is meditation. How does experience shape

is meditation. How does experience shape us as human beings? How do we strengthen the mind itself as an organ? And so by understanding our mind, we understand a

very very simple tool, a crucial tool that we have to learn how to use if we want to build the life that we want to.

So check out the link in the bio and start your journey today. There's just a ton of science behind this that the more emotional we get, it doesn't matter what kind of emotion. Like imagine for a

moment that I'm like, "Hi, my name is blah blah blah and I swear I didn't do anything and I'm innocent." And then if you listen if you listen to that person, right, like you're like, "Oh, yeah. I

don't know if I believe that person." A

really great example of this is like Johnny Depp in in his Amber Heard trial.

If you guys watch clips of Johnny Depp, you know, he's like hilarious on the stand. And if you think about the

stand. And if you think about the psychological impact that that has on your brain, if someone is funny and entertaining, you are more likely to believe them. That's like a fact, yo.

believe them. That's like a fact, yo.

Like a fact. So, I think we do not realize that when we watch things like this, this actually shapes our thinking, whether you realize it or not. And this

is what's really insane. So, I I'm going to ask y'all a question that's really hard to answer, which is when you believe something about collargate, what is that based on? Right? And we think

it's based on evidence, but there's a really, really good chance that it's based on emotion. And I'm not saying that there isn't evidence that is supportive or not supportive. We'll kind

of get to that in a second. Okay. But

like I I want y'all to really really understand this that the thoughts that your mind produces are not like super logical necessarily. Like you have to

logical necessarily. Like you have to work really hard to have like a logical thought. And this is what we see on the

thought. And this is what we see on the internet. We know there are tons of

internet. We know there are tons of studies on online radicalization. The

more time you spend in a particular bubble, the more your thoughts will be shaped in that bubble. I've had

patients, it's [ __ ] terrifying. So, I

had one one friend of mine, not a patient, whose wife started going down this like Instagram, girl power, like toxic femininity, like Missandry like

rabbit hole and then like their their marriage completely fell apart. I've

also had friends whose patients usually actually not friends whose like husbands or boyfriends will start to go down the toxic manosphere rabbit hole. So, as we

talk across each other, as we stay in our insular communities, as there's a lack of dialogue, we're seeing in this in the political space where like, you know, here in the United States, like

people don't answer questions anymore.

This has been going on for a long time.

I know everyone loves loves to [ __ ] on Trump about how he's doing this and he's doing this. Like, we stopped answering

doing this. Like, we stopped answering questions. Politicians stopped answering

questions. Politicians stopped answering questions in the United States a very long time ago, right? So, we don't talk to each other. And as we don't talk to each other, as we don't really sit and listen to each other, as we consume this

online content, we get radicalized into two areas, then we get to the stands and and the aggressors. Now, we're going to talk about mentalization. Okay? So, this

is going to be really challenging. Okay?

It's going to be so [ __ ] simple, but it's going to be really challenging.

Now, here's the interesting thing. When

I make this video, at the end of this video, there's a really, really, really good chance, actually, not even at the end. Already, there's a good chance that

end. Already, there's a good chance that if you're a pro-Hassan person, you dislike what I'm saying. If you're an anti-Hassan person, you dislike what I'm saying. By the end of this video,

saying. By the end of this video, there's a really, really good chance that people on both sides of the conflict will really, really dislike me.

Okay? And we're going to understand why right here and right now. Let's say

you're Hassan. And let's say for a moment that you are not abusive to your dog. Let's just assume this for a

dog. Let's just assume this for a moment. Okay, so Hassan loves Kaya,

moment. Okay, so Hassan loves Kaya, which is not mutually exclusive with abuse, by the way, which we can talk about if y'all want to, but is kind, does not use shock collaller. Let's just

assume for a moment. Now, the first thing that I want y'all to do is notice your reaction to this. So, here's what I've learned. Here at Healthy Gamer,

I've learned. Here at Healthy Gamer, we've worked with over 500 creators. I'm

a creator myself. And one of the craziest things that we encounter time and time and time again is like once the internet starts to believe something.

First of all, how little information they have, right? And let's understand like why this happens. So a week ago, if I upload a clip of Hassan being nice to

his dog, what do y'all think happens to that clip? This gets [ __ ] downvoted

that clip? This gets [ __ ] downvoted through the roof. Okay. Now let's

understand why. So what does the internet love more than anything else?

This is a separate point. The first

thing that the internet loves is a delta is a change. So why is collargate such a big deal? It's because Hassan is not

big deal? It's because Hassan is not known as an animal abuser, right? So

Hassan's like platform is about minorities. It's about supporting the

minorities. It's about supporting the people who are like, you know, he's he's like a leftist. Like so he's like you know people we got to like look out for the underdogs and we got to take care of everybody and like the people in power

the bad guys. I may be misrepresenting it. I apologize if I am. I'm trying to

it. I apologize if I am. I'm trying to just summarize and move on because I'm not so interested in the platform. But

what the internet loves more than anything else is a delta. So anytime you have someone who's perceived as good who does something bad, the internet is going to love it. And anytime you have someone who's bad who does something

good, the internet is going to pay attention, right? And that's just the

attention, right? And that's just the way that our brain works. We like

novelty and any kind of change is is important. So, I'm going to show you all

important. So, I'm going to show you all a paper real quick. The effect of adaptation on differential brightness discrimination. This paper is great.

discrimination. This paper is great.

It's from 1938, y'all. Journal of

Physiology, like back when there was just a journal of physiology, not like cardiac physiology, not like kidney physiology, like basically this paper

talks about how human beings are more sensitive to changes. So, like basically this this paper is looking at the eye.

Okay. And it's basically says like look when the eye is used to seeing darkness and it sees light, it like notices a lot a lot more. So there's this really interesting principle in human beings where like basically if you if there's

some kind of change, that's something we're really sensitive to. So if I'm in a relationship with someone and they suddenly stop responding to my texts, I'm going to be hyper sensitive to that.

If like there's a very very loud room where like everyone's like laughing and like hanging out and whatever and suddenly things go silent, I'm very sensitive to that. So, human beings are our brains are wired to be sensitive to

change. Okay, but let's get back to this

change. Okay, but let's get back to this other Hassan thing. So, here's the sequence. Okay, so let's assume for a

sequence. Okay, so let's assume for a moment that Hassan does not use a a shock collar. He uses a vibrating collar

shock collar. He uses a vibrating collar that he loves his dog. Okay, that there um he treats his dog well. Let's assume

that this is true. Now he he says his story is it's not a shot caller, it's a vibrating collar, it's part of her training, etc., etc., etc. Now, what happens is that there's two groups, one that believes this and one that

disbelieves this. Now, once you form a

disbelieves this. Now, once you form a judgment, this is the really scary thing. So, then everyone gets upset

thing. So, then everyone gets upset about this clip and people form opinions. And then what happens, you

opinions. And then what happens, you know, there's this clip. Now, we're in an interesting situation because if you're close to Hassan and you know the guy and you know that like this is true,

right? Like I've seen Hassan. I'm not

right? Like I've seen Hassan. I'm not

just basing things on a 37se secondond clip from the internet. I've known this guy for years. He's a friend of mine. I

see the way that he treats Kaya. People

like Ry showed up and they're like this is the most loved dog in the world, right? And so they're saying things like

right? And so they're saying things like this. So then like then what happens is

this. So then like then what happens is like his friends, right? Like people

like defend him and it's not even clear like I I don't think that they're necessarily like defending him. I think

they're just saying, "Hey, people on the internet who watched a 37 second clip, we know this guy. We've spent hours,

days with him and his dogs. He is not like this. This is a poor

like this. This is a poor representation. Now, here's the really

representation. Now, here's the really important thing. So, when a human being

important thing. So, when a human being does something, there are reasons they do something. There are psychological

do something. There are psychological drivers. There are emotional drivers

drivers. There are emotional drivers that lead to the behavior. So

mentalization is the process of understanding when a human being does something what are the psychological drivers that are actually driving them and then even

within ourselves when I do this thing why do I do this thing right what is psychologically driving me to engage in this behavior this is something that we

become so [ __ ] decrepit at like we suck at this and I'll give you all an illustrative example okay so let's say I'm someone who has very high level of

insecurity. I'm somewhat narcissistic

insecurity. I'm somewhat narcissistic and I'm getting married. And then my my bff who I haven't seen in 2 years shows up a month before the wedding for her

her bridesmaid fitting and I've noticed, oh crap, she has lost so much weight and she looks so great. And in the meantime, I've been in a steady relationship for the last 5 years. I've let myself go a

little bit. A few years ago when we were

little bit. A few years ago when we were in college, she used to be a little bit overweight and I was like a regular weight and now she's got really kind of gotten her [ __ ] together and like I've

kind of let myself go and then I feel bad, right? Our positions have reversed.

bad, right? Our positions have reversed.

And so if I'm not careful, what I will do is I'll say, "Oh my god, she lost weight to make me look bad." And then I start coming up with all of these excuses for her to no longer be a

bridesmaid. But if I I I do not have

bridesmaid. But if I I I do not have insight into these driving factors like it it doesn't make sense. Right? So and

this is where there's a failure of mentalization because this person in this situ situation I don't think for a moment about why would this person lose weight. I don't consider that they have

weight. I don't consider that they have all kinds of reasons outside of what my mind automatically produces. That there are actions and

produces. That there are actions and then there are reasons for those actions. But my mind produces some

actions. But my mind produces some hypothesis like, oh, she's trying to make me look bad, which by the way is emotional. Remember that, right? But

emotional. Remember that, right? But

there are all kinds of reasons why people could be doing this. And what I see in Colergate is a whole scale failure of mentalization. Okay? And

we're going to explain that. I'm going

to walk you all through it. So, let's go back here. Yo, this isn't true, friends

back here. Yo, this isn't true, friends of Hassan. Right now, here's the scary

of Hassan. Right now, here's the scary thing. When we have these clips of

thing. When we have these clips of people saying this, this is what's crazy. There are the people who believe

crazy. There are the people who believe Hassan who are like yes right they look at this and based on their mentalization they sort of accept this and then we

have the people who are the disbelievers okay and the disbelievers look at this in this very simple action they don't think like oh these people actually have spent thousands of hours with Hassan and

Kaya maybe they know more than than we do right that that's not what they think what do they think chat do you see how one action gets interpreted by two groups of people

in a completely different way. Right?

And this is where we got to talk about something for a second. And if it sounds like I'm defending, I'm really not.

Right? We're going to get to like all the people who who criticize him and stuff in a second, but I just want y'all to know like, so there is a perspective where it's like, okay, like I'm not abusive to my dog, but then let's think

about Hassan's perspective. Let's just

imagine for a [ __ ] second that he is not abusive to his dog. What is he supposed to do? Okay. So, then we get to these clips, right? So, so then a day later, Hassan shows the collar and he's

like, "Look, here's the collar that I used >> of the charging port and the texture of the >> Okay. And then Loner Box shows up and

>> Okay. And then Loner Box shows up and he's like, "Look, this this looks like this model."

this model." >> He examines it and he's like, basically, this is a shot collar. So, this is what Loner Box says. Now, remember, we're trying to mentalize here. So, we're

trying to put ourselves in Hassan's shoes and we're assuming because we don't really know, right? We weren't

there. We don't know. If you think this is sufficient evidence to crack the case, that's totally fine. I'm not

commenting on that. But my point is that like if you're Hassan and you're not using a shot caller, what are you supposed to do, right? Like what action can you take? And this is what we've

learned working with so many streamers is that like when you get railroaded like there's really not much you can do because people are e even some of this stuff where people are like okay you

know people are coming out and quote unquote defending you but someone saying hey this guy didn't do this gets interpreted as like oh my god this guy

is like he's like bullying all these people into defending him. That could be true. I'm not saying it isn't. But I'm

true. I'm not saying it isn't. But I'm

not saying it is. You'll see what I'm kind of getting at here is that there is one piece of evidence which based on your narrative interpretation gets like

put into one area or the other area, right? So, so like someone coming out

right? So, so like someone coming out and actually saying, "Hey, he's this is not a shot caller. Like I I hang out with the guy. I've seen it a bunch. He

doesn't shock his dog. I'm with him all the time." And then the believers are

the time." And then the believers are going to say yes. And the disbelievers are going to say no. They're going to say he's whipped. So my point is not whether this is true or not true, okay?

It's about the differential reactions based on the narrative that is already in our head. And now we get to a really really scary issue which is that if this is true, if right, if you don't want to

believe it, that's okay. Just listen to what I'm saying. Don't worry about this particular thing. If this is true and

particular thing. If this is true and the disbelievers are discounting it, then what do we do? And this is what we see not just here. We see this in

politics all the time, right? This piece

of data does not fit with my narrative.

Therefore, I'm going to say that this data is invalid. And once I say this data is invalid, how is anyone ever going to change their mind? Do y'all see

what I'm saying here? This is like I kid y'all not. This is why there is war,

y'all not. This is why there is war, strife, and problems, political unrest, male female dynamics. This is the

problem. Like this is the most dangerous

problem. Like this is the most dangerous thing on the planet. If I'm a dude to alive today and I say hey I'm struggling and people say I am discounting that

because you are privileged. That's why

men have a super high suicide rate. If

I'm a woman today and I'm saying hey it is not safe for me to walk around and we say oh it's safe and if you get raped it's your fault. Like that's the

problem. It is fundamentally it's not

problem. It is fundamentally it's not I'm not anti- any of these views or any I'm not trying to take a side here. What

I'm trying to point out and this is why I'm talking about this in the first place is like the biggest problem in the world today is when some someone speaks up with something that is contrary to

what we believe. We just discount it. We

talk across each other. So we each of us like you know I'm saying this is good, you're saying this is bad. And instead

of like like talking and discussing and understanding, I'm not understanding why you think it's bad. Wait, why do you think this is bad? Let me try to understand. You're not trying to

understand. You're not trying to understand. Wait, wait, this is good.

understand. Wait, wait, this is good.

I'm confused. Instead, what we do is we talk to our base and then we end up moving in this direction because we're not listening to each other at all.

That's one scenario. But the other scenario is that Hassan uses, right, this is possible. It's a possibility, right? And there's like, you know, you

right? And there's like, you know, you have to make your own judgment on the evidence. Like this, like I watched this

evidence. Like this, like I watched this 51 second clip and I was like, damn.

Right. And then it it's like looks like Lonerbach cracked the case. Like even

the framing of the video seems really really like damning. Okay. And then

there's all kinds of other problems like one problem is like and then there's this kind of contextual stuff, right?

Where we see him doing things like this.

So, this builds a narrative of like like he's just, you know, he seems to get mad at his dogs a lot. Like pulling a dog by the tail. Big big big no no. That's like

the tail. Big big big no no. That's like

part of their vertebrae if I remember correctly. I'm not a veterinarian, okay?

correctly. I'm not a veterinarian, okay?

I'm a psychiatrist, but like this this is like looks really bad, right? So,

this is like this is kind kind of scary stuff. And the way that he reacts to her

stuff. And the way that he reacts to her in that clip where he's clearly frustrated with her, right? So, so there there's I mean there's there's really strong evidence quote unquote, right? So

there's historic evidence. Let's say I'm going to call it frustration or abuse. I

I I don't know if this is how abusive this is. I I can't I don't know about

this is. I I can't I don't know about the treatment of animals from a professional sense. So is this dam? I

professional sense. So is this dam? I

think it's I mean it's it scares me when I see that. I would never I had three German shepherds growing up. I would

never do that to my German shepherds, right? Like I I wouldn't do that to a

right? Like I I wouldn't do that to a dog. But I don't know. Maybe it's okay.

dog. But I don't know. Maybe it's okay.

I I I I don't know. I don't know, right?

And if you all know more about dogs and you want to form a judgment on that, that's totally fine. Then there's things like the loner box, okay, who's like looking at the shot caller. And then we get to one of my favorites, all the mixed messages. So then what happens,

mixed messages. So then what happens, and this is this is really where there's like narrative really creates real problems. So people are saying, okay, so cutie said this. She said, oh my god,

like it's it's had the shot caller prongs removed. Someone else is saying,

prongs removed. Someone else is saying, oh my god, there were never shot callers. There was never prongs on

callers. There was never prongs on there. Somebody else is saying this.

there. Somebody else is saying this.

Somebody else is saying this. And when

people see mixed messages, they once again remember there's a narrative interpretation based on what you already believe. So when two human beings offer

believe. So when two human beings offer different stories to a particular thing, your interpretation is that they're lying. Hate to break it to y'all. Could

lying. Hate to break it to y'all. Could

they be lying? Absolutely. But I think what's far more common is that human beings and people are like, "Oh, why didn't you just show the caller then and there?" Right? People will say all of

there?" Right? People will say all of these things on the internet. They're

like, "Why didn't they do this? Why

didn't they do this?" Okay, let me ask you all something. When you're like doing your day job and something weird happens that you don't expect and you're kind of frustrated, right? You're

clearly not in a good mood and then you kind of lash out and then you're like, you don't think it's that big of a deal, right? So, I don't think he thought it

right? So, I don't think he thought it was that big of a deal. Like, do you all know like when you make a mistake, do you immediately know or does like a day go by, two days go by and you're like, "Oh [ __ ] I should have said that. I

should have done that. I should have I didn't realize in that moment like I should have really done this." And my favorite example of this is when I was in school growing up, kids would make fun of me and then like 36 they'd say,

"Oh yeah, all is such a [ __ ] loser.

Like go back home and play your Nintendo. Can't c catch a ball." Butter

Nintendo. Can't c catch a ball." Butter

fingers. And then like I'd go back home and 36 hours later I'd be like, "Man, I've got the perfect comeback." So in that moment, like we don't think properly. In fact, we think improperly

properly. In fact, we think improperly when we're stressed, right? But when

people see that, okay, he's showing the caller the next day and like in that window, could it have been doctorred?

Absolutely. I'm not saying that it couldn't have been doctorred. I'm not

saying that he did. It is a shot caller, isn't shot caller. What I'm saying, and this is what's so hard for human beings, there is a differential diagnosis for a situation. See, when a doc when a

situation. See, when a doc when a patient comes into my office and I think one thing, the whole point of medical training is like I think this is what happened, but I could be wrong. like I

think you've got COVID, but maybe you've got cancer, maybe it's an allergy, maybe it's an autoimmune disease. So, we are formally trained to think through

multiple possibilities. This we do not

multiple possibilities. This we do not see on the internet. Depending on what your narrative is, you jump to a conclusion, right? You just jump to a

conclusion, right? You just jump to a conclusion. So, people say like, "Oh,

conclusion. So, people say like, "Oh, there's mixed messages and people are lying." Like, no. So, I want y'all to

lying." Like, no. So, I want y'all to think about [ __ ] the last time you and your roommates argued about the dishes. If I were to go and interview

dishes. If I were to go and interview all three three roommates, who did the most dishes? I'd get three different

most dishes? I'd get three different answers. Does that mean that people are

answers. Does that mean that people are lying and trying to do a cover up? No.

People just have their own individual flawed memory, their perception of things. They're representing that. It

things. They're representing that. It

doesn't mean that there's some kind of conspiracy or that people are lying or trying to cover up or anything like that. I think human beings sometimes, I

that. I think human beings sometimes, I know it sounds insane, human beings sometimes make contrary statements. Keep

in mind that even though I'm saying all this stuff, I'm not commenting on whether Hassan used a shot caller or didn't use a shot. I have no idea. Okay?

I don't know. I wasn't there. Right? And

so you can you're allowed to believe what you want to believe. If you think that all of this evidence against him that you know people are saying this and like like the loner box video like this is what the shot caller is that he has

this historic narrative of like being at least callous towards animals if not abusive. I I don't really know. Right.

abusive. I I don't really know. Right.

So it doesn't look good. And that's when we get to another issue, which is selection bias, right? So when these things kind of happen, so I don't know if y'all I I once had a patient that got

accused of not really sexual misconduct, but was like harassing one of the female employees. But the moment that happens,

employees. But the moment that happens, the whole narrative changes. The moment

that happens, everyone is like, "Oh yeah, like they were such a creep. There

was that one day in the break room where like, you know, they like they sat next to me and they like started sneezing and then they like dropped their phone and like maybe they were taking a picture of like what was under my skirt or

something like that. Like the moment that there's a narrative that gets formed, we start populating all of these clips, right? So, how many hours of

clips, right? So, how many hours of material is there of Hassan interacting with Kaya? And are any of the positive

with Kaya? And are any of the positive things going to get what's going to get upvoted is the most damning clips? Now,

just because what's going to get upvoted is the most damning clips does not mean that those clips aren't true. Maybe

that's true, right? I'm not saying it isn't true. What I'm saying is like

isn't true. What I'm saying is like remember this is not about Hassan. This

is about the world that we live in, what gets propagated, what gets upvoted to the top, the stuff that tends to fit our narrative. So, I think this is a really

narrative. So, I think this is a really good example of why we should mentalize more, right? Instead of just jumping to

more, right? Instead of just jumping to a conclusion, we should try to put ourselves in Hassan's shoes and ask yourself for a moment if this was not a shot caller, what is he supposed to say

or what is he supposed to do? Let's

assume he's innocent. Is there anything he could say would alleviate the the suspicions of the people who think he's is there is there any option? And this

is an interesting I I sometimes will have political discussions like not often but you know and one of the things that I will ask people one of my favorite questions in politics is what would have to happen for you to stop

supporting this person right what would actually change your mind and that's why I the answer to that question is why I think politics is like has a serious problem because the truth of the matter is that very few things like if you ask

someone what would actually change your mind you realize how far radicalized they've become that It would take something incredibly monumental once a narrative forms in your head. So if

you're someone who who hates Hassan, what would it take for you to like him?

What would would you would it take for you to think he's a good guy? And on the flip side, if you're a Hassan stan, what would it take for you to dislike him?

See, this is something that you have to do ahead of time cuz each step of the way, it doesn't work. Like because

you'll rationalize you'll rationalize if you're on a particular team, you'll rationalize away the behavior of that team one step at a time and you'll end up you started at zero, you'll end up at

like a 100. You should really stop and ask yourself critically for a belief that you have for someone that you like, for someone that you dislike, what would it take for you to change your mind? We

do not ask ourselves this question enough. Now there's one other thing

enough. Now there's one other thing about mentalization that I want to talk about this too. I mean, this is where there's like claims that Kai didn't have the shocker during the incident. Like

this this I mean, it's clear that she did. And this two is like, okay, and and

did. And this two is like, okay, and and this is where I I know that there's a differential diagnosis here. One is that he he's mistaken, which I mean, he's mistaken. I think I think there's plenty

mistaken. I think I think there's plenty of evidence of that. And maybe I'm wrong there, but the second is like I can just attest to this, y'all. When people are under huge amounts of stress, their mind

like thinks in a very black and white way and they just sometimes make mistakes, right? So just because he's

mistakes, right? So just because he's having some doing some mental gymnastics in his head like a week into this [ __ ] when he's getting hammered like just because he makes a mistake doesn't mean he was originally lying. It I'm not like

I'm not saying that I'm not I'm not trying to like support him here. I'm

just saying I want y'all to think about when you're when when you're one week into a period of stress is your mind producing thoughts that are 100% correct? Okay. So here's the other part

correct? Okay. So here's the other part about mentalization that I want to talk about. Okay.

about. Okay.

>> Right-wing figures are literally doing rapes. Okay, they're doing rapes and

rapes. Okay, they're doing rapes and nothing matters on the right. It don't

matter. This isn't to say that like there shouldn't be a limit. You know

what I mean? I'm just saying be a little bit more exercise a little bit more critical thought. Then be better

critical thought. Then be better yourself. Maybe have a dog and it not be

yourself. Maybe have a dog and it not be a part of your persona. If you don't want to [ __ ] question when you're evasive, you're no different than the GOP. You're a 40mon subscriber and you

GOP. You're a 40mon subscriber and you think I'm like the grand old party because I won't just sit there and be like, "You guys are right. I'm actually

abusive to my dog." This is unironically what I was talking about. Like please

exercise a little bit of critical thinking. Just a little bit, just for

thinking. Just a little bit, just for like a second, and I think you will realize that maybe maybe you're not behaving correctly about this. Cuz if

you're a 401 subscriber, you've been here, you've been here long enough that you know this is ridiculous.

>> So here's where like we're going to talk about critical thinking for a second.

This is why it's so important to mentalize. Okay? If a 40-month

mentalize. Okay? If a 40-month subscriber who's been around from the beginning thinks that this is sus, I think a huge opportunity for critical thinking is for you to take a step back

and think about how does this person arrive at this conclusion, right? And

this goes back to like this diagram over here, which is like if there's like a 40mon subscriber who's over here and and doesn't think that what you're doing is like okay, telling them to exercise

critical thinking is fine. You can do that. that this is I think a great

that. that this is I think a great opportunity for critical thinking because how is it that someone who has been here right the the key question for me in this scenario is how is it that

this person who has been here for so long comes to this conclusion because they are ending up in one place and I am ending up in a in a different place and Hassan talks about this a lot he says

like you know the the best way I don't know how to fight against observable reality right so he'll say like I I don't know how to fight against observable reality and like That's really really really really really important to think about because the

whole point here is that the reality that you are observing is not the same as the reality that the other people are observing. And until you understand the

observing. And until you understand the reality that other people are observing, how do you know that your reality is more correct than their reality? And

this is where the mind will come up with whatever answers Hassan will say, well, I was there obviously, duh, right? But

your mind is going to be plagued with cognitive bias as well. Your mind is going to look at things like this and say like, you know, your mind is going to look at things like this and say like this is not a problem. This is a clip of

someone who's telling him that it, you know, he's like choking his dog with because the collar is too tight. His

mind is going to look at something like this and it will very prone to dismiss it. People are leaving out the context.

it. People are leaving out the context.

People are leaving out this. People

aren't considering this. People don't

see all the great stuff that I do for my dogs. Right? So like this is where I'm

dogs. Right? So like this is where I'm not and I'm not trying to like zero in on him. I'm saying any human being will

on him. I'm saying any human being will do this the moment that you get defensive. Right? So I think about when

defensive. Right? So I think about when y'all get criticized and you will think, "Oh my god, these people are ignoring the reality of the situation. They're

ignoring the reality of the situation."

They see a different reality. And this

is the problem with the world today is we are all living in our own realities.

And how on earth can we coexist when we are living in different realities, right? So like anytime like if someone

right? So like anytime like if someone has known you very well and I see this all the time. Let me just use a different example. So if someone knows

different example. So if someone knows you really well and like you know I've had patients who have struggled with things like alcohol addiction and then their friends come to them and they're like hey man I've known you for 40

months and this is not like you. This is

a problem. And then the my patients response will be like oh my god you don't understand my situation. You

you're being judgmental. You're not

looking at things clearly. like you

don't understand what the reality of the situation is. That's their response. But

situation is. That's their response. But

when you're under attack, I want you all to think about when people attack you, do you think critically? Or is your default response, man, I wish they would think more critically? And this is what's happening right now because we're

talking across each other. We're not

actually listening to each other. We're

just like getting pissed at each other, blaming each other, and then like inviting the rest of the world to be less stupid, right? We're smart, you're dumb. And that that is not working,

dumb. And that that is not working, y'all. It's just not working. This is

y'all. It's just not working. This is

why dialogue, as we've seen a decline in dialogue, we see more things like this where it's shots fired followed by defenses followed by tribal thinking followed by defense versus attack. Now

it's us versus them. There's no like, hey, can we sit down and try to figure out what's like going on? How is this for you? Like what, you know, what's

for you? Like what, you know, what's going on with you? Like, you know, everyone feels this way. Like what do you think about that? like there's

there's no dialogue. And then we get to I think the weird stuff. Okay. Now, this

is where there's something weird in the air that is hard for me to describe, but I think there's a lot of projection.

There's a lot of displacement. You know,

this 78K, like this blows my mind. And

Han is like, "Hey, there's a genocide going on, right? There's all kinds of problems in the world." And it's not just a genocide. There's like, you know, American likeos rural hospitals in America are closing down. Like there's

still conflict in Israel and Palestine.

There's a lot of like weird stuff happening in the US. There's a war between Ukraine and and Russia. There

are problems in the EU. Um, you know, was it Indonesia?

Um, which country was it? Nepal maybe

had like a revolution where they elected somebody on Discord. I'm forgetting

which country it was. I think it was Nepal. And they like they [ __ ]

Nepal. And they like they [ __ ] dragged their finance minister through the streets and like whipped him and stuff like that. Like there's all kinds of stuff going on. And this is what we get really focused on, right? So, so for

the people who are like hammering Hassan, why is it that it is so important to see that this guy is brought to justice about this issue? Do

you all do y'all get what I'm saying?

Like why is there such a intense desire to see this outcome resolved in a particular way? Do you do you all get

particular way? Do you do you all get like that's a little bit weird? Like

what is our investment as a community in this? Are we suddenly like super pro-

this? Are we suddenly like super pro- animal rights or like what's going on here? Are we going to try to like

here? Are we going to try to like protect the like why are we so invested in this? And and this is where I think

in this? And and this is where I think there's a lot of projection and there's a lot of displacement. I'm not quite sure what this is. I'd really have to sit down and talk to a lot of people to really understand what's going on, but

this is what I feel. So, this is the part that I think is like the sketchiest part of what I'm going to say. So, what

I detect is a lot of pent up resentment.

And now that resentment is coming out, I would say that this reaction is disproportionate.

And maybe I'm wrong there. Maybe I don't understand people's values and we're really pro- animals or whatever, but I would say that this reaction is like disproportionate to the size of the

thing, right? And I want to say like,

thing, right? And I want to say like, can we I'm going to just check in with chat for a second. Can we agree on that?

Would y'all say that this is like okay, because we hate hypocrites? Great. I I

I'm I I So for the people who are saying no, what what are y'all saying? What why

do y'all think this is not disproportionate? No, no. Let's listen

disproportionate? No, no. Let's listen

to the people. So people who say like like let's let me understand because he always escapes. Okay, this is beautiful.

always escapes. Okay, this is beautiful.

Okay. Always escapes responsibility.

What else? Jesus, I got to slow down.

Maybe we're pro- animals like Okay.

Right. So So animal abuse, but there's like all kinds of animal abuse going on all the time, right? There's like all kinds of animal abuse going on all the time. What bothers us so much about this

time. What bothers us so much about this instance of animal abuse more so than everything else. And I'm not saying I'm

everything else. And I'm not saying I'm right. I'm not saying you're y'all are

right. I'm not saying you're y'all are wrong. I'm genuinely trying to

wrong. I'm genuinely trying to understand why for the people who do not think this is dis disproportionate. Like

tell me why. Explain it to me. He can't

keep getting away with it. Exposes his

true colors. Um so this is like related to hypocrisy. This is beautiful. Okay.

to hypocrisy. This is beautiful. Okay.

So, he's like deflecting, talking about rapes. Okay. Gaslighting. Okay. This is

rapes. Okay. Gaslighting. Okay. This is

great.

Okay. So, I didn't feel super confident in what I was about to say. Double

standards. Okay. I didn't feel super confident what I was going to say, but man, y'all just really helped me out.

So, I'm so grateful. Okay, this is so good. Okay, so remember when I said up

good. Okay, so remember when I said up here there's pent up resentment. So, I'm

going to ask y'all a question. Are are

there people in today's world that escape responsibility? What do y'all

escape responsibility? What do y'all think chat? No accountability. Are we

think chat? No accountability. Are we

upset? Right. Can y'all think of anyone who is escaping responsibility for their actions? Right. Are we upset with them?

actions? Right. Are we upset with them?

Yeah. Okay. Are there people Can we do anything about it? So, I want y'all to think about I want you all to think about someone who you are who is escaping responsibility and what can you do? Can you all do anything about it?

do? Can you all do anything about it?

Okay. Right. So like some people are saying yes, some people are saying no.

Right? So there are people and can we do anything about it? Not really. Maybe you

can do something. I I I don't know.

Right? Are there people out there abusing animals? Can we do anything

abusing animals? Can we do anything about it? Do we do anything about it?

about it? Do we do anything about it?

Not really. Are there people out there who keep getting away with it? Can we do anything about it? Not really. Do we

know someone who we're waiting for them to expose their true colors? Are there

like people in your life that you know like that you see on TV or you see on the internet? Are we like kind of as a

the internet? Are we like kind of as a society are we frustrated with people being fake and can we expose them? Are

there people around us that are very hypocritical? Say one thing, do

hypocritical? Say one thing, do something else. Can you do anything

something else. Can you do anything about it? Probably not. Are there people

about it? Probably not. Are there people who deflect who when they have some kind of problem say, "Oh, but there's something there's they're really good at what aboutism." They're like, "Stop

what aboutism." They're like, "Stop looking at my problem. There's so many worse problems going over there."

Absolutely. Are are there people out there who are gaslighting us and can we do a whole lot about it? Absolutely not.

Oh, here's a good one. Are there people who have double standards? Does the

world treat some people very well and some people treat very poorly? Right?

Does CEO of Twitch, is he a fan of any particular political streamers? Is there

a double standard? This is what's crazy.

We don't really know. I know there's a perception of a double standard, but this is what's crazy. I know this is crazy, but hear me out. I've been on the receiving end of this. The prime example that I can think of is I once worked

with a a Dota 2 team and man, working with that Dota 2 team and seeing how it runs on the inside and what the real problems were and seeing what Reddit's understanding of what the problems were,

they were like night and day. No one on Reddit had a [ __ ] clue what was going on inside the team. But everyone is judging and everyone is sure that they're right. Does that make sense?

they're right. Does that make sense?

that being in the room and knowing what is actually happening is very different from watching clips on the internet and believing you know what is happening.

Are we sensitive to people who do not take responsibility? So here's what I

take responsibility? So here's what I think is happening. When human beings have all of this pent up stuff, there's so many things that we hate Hassan for.

And that's fine. But here's the thing.

the things that y'all are talking about.

For those of y'all that are like really really not don't think that this is inappropriate, right? And I'm not saying

inappropriate, right? And I'm not saying that y'all are right or y'all are wrong.

Remember the goal of this is not to pass judgment. I'm not judge. I'm not jury.

judgment. I'm not judge. I'm not jury.

I'm not executioner. I'm not

investigator. I think we as human beings need to understand what the [ __ ] is going on in our society right now because we are tearing each other apart.

And I'm serious y'all. This is not hyperbole. This could result in

hyperbole. This could result in biological weapons. It could result in

biological weapons. It could result in nuclear weapons. It could result in all

nuclear weapons. It could result in all kinds of problems. People, the world is [ __ ] falling apart because of stuff like this. Because of the fundamental

like this. Because of the fundamental way that human beings have started interacting with each other and because of a lack of the way that we've started, the way that we've stopped interacting

with each other. So, we have all of this pent up emotional energy and it's got nowhere to go. And so, where does it end up? Someone shows up and holy [ __ ]

up? Someone shows up and holy [ __ ] y'all. The evidence is good. Did you see

y'all. The evidence is good. Did you see him yanking by his tail? The loner box video. XQC is doing this. All these

video. XQC is doing this. All these

people are lying about it. He's got

Lewig on a leash. Like, oh my god, this guy. This [ __ ] guy. This [ __ ] guy.

guy. This [ __ ] guy. This [ __ ] guy.

Double standard hypocrite. Privileged.

Pretends to be pro- minority while he has $3 million houses and $300 shirts, right? A champion for the

right? A champion for the underprivileged. No accountability. Gets

underprivileged. No accountability. Gets

to dodge bans all the time. Other people

get banned for all kinds of stuff. And

then now like it comes out onto him and this guy is like what the [ __ ] did I do?

I hit a button and oh my god I want y'all to think about this from Hassan's perspective. Let's think for a moment

perspective. Let's think for a moment like holy [ __ ] What is this disproportionate reaction? Because

disproportionate reaction? Because people can't get upset at anybody else.

People can't tear down anybody else. So

what do they do? They go for him. He's

the one target. Because I know this sounds insane, y'all. I've worked with a bunch of creators. A creator's power is a is a house of cards. Is a [ __ ] house of cards. And if public sentiment

turns against you, there's very little resilience. There's no institution to

resilience. There's no institution to prop you up. And it's terrifying. Like

this guy's like, "What did I do? I hit a button." And by the way, it's not even

button." And by the way, it's not even illegal. People sell shot collars. You

illegal. People sell shot collars. You

can use a shot collar. Hey, he talks about like the 10 like I've had a TENS machine. It delivers, and by the way,

machine. It delivers, and by the way, he's correct here. TENS machines are things that are used to help people in physical therapy. They deliver deliver

physical therapy. They deliver deliver an electrical shock that is way higher than a shot collar. Um, but here's the key thing to remember. A TENS machine is

used on muscle. The shot collar is not.

Okay? If I punch you in the throat and I punch you in the arm, the amount of pain you will experience will be very different. Do you all get that? Just

different. Do you all get that? Just

because the force is the same does not mean that the pain is the same. But do

you all get what I'm saying about this right here? that this is what's

right here? that this is what's happening. We've got one guy and when

happening. We've got one guy and when the mob gets angry and it's angry at 15 people and one person fitting the description of the other 14 show up,

they tear him apart. Now, there are a couple of other complicating factors here which I think really really there's a lot of pent up stuff. I think that's specifically towards Hassan. So, I know for example that and I'm not saying this

is true or not true. I'm just saying that in the with the creators that I've worked with, one of the things that there there are a handful of communities that they're really scared of and Hassans is one of them. I'm not saying

that that's justified or not justified.

I'm not saying it's true or not true, but just for whatever reason, right? And

when people say I'll ask them like why, right? What concerns you about? And I

right? What concerns you about? And I

think it has something to do with his size, his rigidity, and the tribalism of his community. Right? There's like a

his community. Right? There's like a there's an us versus them. And another

example of this, and I think this is why the Ethan Klein Hassan thing got so bad because there's a lot of tribalism in both of those communities. There's not a whole lot of like dialogue or trying to understand or or things like that. At

least that I can perceive. And if that's incorrect, remember I'm making these judgments based on very limited stuff.

It's not like I watch these guys a whole lot. It's just when I the parts of them

lot. It's just when I the parts of them that I do see, which there could be a selection bias for, there's like, you know, there's not a whole lot of like let's understand why the right is the way that it is. That's not usually what

they say. Let's try to understand the

they say. Let's try to understand the perspectives of the Palestinians. Let's

try to understand the perspectives of the Israelis. I haven't seen them talk

the Israelis. I haven't seen them talk about that. There is rigidity, there is

about that. There is rigidity, there is tribalism, and there is righteousness.

And so, I think that when you add tribalism, rigidity, and righteousness when when you add that with clout, power, and size, this is what you see.

And this is not just him. So I encourage you all to think about communities, how open they are, how understanding they are, how convinced they are that they are right and somebody else is wrong and

how do those communities behave. Don't

even think about LSF or the Twitch sphere or the streamer sphere or whatever. Think about other groups that

whatever. Think about other groups that you know. So why am I talking about

you know. So why am I talking about this? Because I think like we need to

this? Because I think like we need to understand that this is happening. We

need to understand that this poor guy, he is getting just an explosion because we've got nowhere else to send it. And

I'm not saying he's innocent. I'm not

saying he's a good dude. I'm not saying he's a bad dude. Not my place to be judge, jury, or executioner. The reason

I'm sharing this with y'all is because like we as a society need to understand these dynamics because as long as as this stuff keeps going, the world will

literally keep moving in the direction that it's moving. It's about winning, not understanding. Right? And and this

not understanding. Right? And and this is where like I I said something earlier that that I I think is like, you know, sometimes has gotten me in trouble, but I want you all to really think about this. Like why do people try to do

this. Like why do people try to do genocide? It's because if I can wipe

genocide? It's because if I can wipe everybody out, then I win for sure.

We've seen this historically. There are

so many people that will try to ethnically cleanse. They're trying to

ethnically cleanse. They're trying to wipe people out. There's no sense of understanding. That's the direction we

understanding. That's the direction we are moving. Hell, we're already there.

are moving. Hell, we're already there.

There are groups of people who are trying to systematically wipe out other groups of people. There's no attempt at understanding. There's it's only about

understanding. There's it's only about winning and as long as we are doing this, this will continue. Now, the last thing that I want to talk about is talking to people. So, when we started streaming or when I started streaming,

we used to have these like really powerful conversations with people and then what would happen is people would start pressuring other streamers to come and talk to us. And then we made a decision several years ago at healthy

gamer that we were growing. We used to have 20 to 40,000 concurrents. Now we're

sitting at a whopping like 1500. Woot.

We made a decision some time ago that the kind of audience that we were attracting was not there to get better.

They were there for voyerism. We're here

to talk to people, to try to help people. We're not here to try to be a

people. We're not here to try to be a show for other people. This is not, you know, the entertaining part is not someone else's struggles. The

entertaining part is me doing accents.

There have been many times where I have been tempted, and sometimes we'll reach out to people if they're going through [ __ ] Tons of people reach out to us. We

try to support them in the best that we can. So, I think dialogue is important,

can. So, I think dialogue is important, but this is where I want y'all to understand. I I feel like I have to talk

understand. I I feel like I have to talk about this. This is framing is really

about this. This is framing is really important. I I struggled with something

important. I I struggled with something that I'm going to share with y'all. So,

when all this [ __ ] was going on, I struggled thinking about whether I should message Hassan or not. Be like,

"Hey, dude. Are you doing okay? Sounds

like you're going through a ton of shit." I don't have a relationship with

shit." I don't have a relationship with him. So, if there's someone I have a

him. So, if there's someone I have a relationship with them, I'll almost always try to DM them if they're going through something. Try to be supportive

through something. Try to be supportive as a friend. But then I was thinking about, and this is what's so hard. So

let's say I DM him. He says, "No, dude.

I'm good." And then I make this video.

What's that like for him? Now Dr. K is like talking about me because I turned him down. Do you all kind of get what

him down. Do you all kind of get what I'm saying? It puts him in a weird

I'm saying? It puts him in a weird position. And we usually like I'm open

position. And we usually like I'm open to having conversations on stream with people with things about this, but there's a certain ambulance chaser mentality to that that I don't like.

It's not really what we're doing, but that's really tricky. And then the other problem is now that I've had this conversation, I'm sure that people will show up in his chat. Hey, Dr. K's talking about you. Like, do you want to

talk to Dr. K? Please guys, don't do that. Do you guys realize, let's

that. Do you guys realize, let's mentalize for a moment, what kind of position that puts him in? It puts him in a lose-lose situation. If he doesn't want to do it, right? It makes him look bad. And if he does do it, then it's

bad. And if he does do it, then it's really scary. It's really dangerous.

really scary. It's really dangerous.

Like, like, y'all get what I'm saying?

Like, this is where I think dialogue is important. think for a moment about what

important. think for a moment about what his experience of this is going to be, right? And I genuinely hope that nothing

right? And I genuinely hope that nothing I said today will cause him or anybody else Cutie Cinderella Lwig Asmin Gold, XQC, like whatever. I I don't wish

anyone to troll on any of these people.

I think please y'all listen to what I'm saying here. This is not about them.

saying here. This is not about them.

This is like look around. The world is [ __ ] falling apart and we need to start having dialogues. So, I'm sort of open to doing that in some way. It's try

kind of what I I try to do, but I don't want to be like, okay, like Dr. K is saying, hey, like y'all should come and talk, right? Do you guys see how

talk, right? Do you guys see how manipulative that is? That like that that's not what I'm saying. So, I'm

trying to sort of not do that, but also say that, hey, we need to start talking to each other. That I firmly believe, right? Because I'm not trying to I'm

right? Because I'm not trying to I'm really not trying to call anyone. I

don't think that that is good, right? To

be like, oh, like, hey, like, do you want to come talk? And if they say no, oh yeah, [ __ ] he didn't want to talk.

And then like we don't want to put him in an unfair position or anybody else for that matter. And at the same time, I want to signal to y'all that this work

needs to be done. And if this work needs to be done, I am somewhat willing to do it cuz I don't know what it looks like.

There's so many other considerations. We

need to start talking to each other.

Like that I believe more than anything else on the planet. like this absolutely needs to happen and this particular instance doesn't need to happen with this particular person about this particular thing because there's so much

crap loaded into this because I want y'all to think for a moment. Let us

mentalize if Hassan and I have a conversation and he says anything. This

happened with [ __ ] poor Thor. I had a conversation with Thor and I think the guy really tried to understand. He

showed up with the right intention. I

showed up with the right intention. I

even asked y'all please don't clip it and ship it. What happened? It got

clipped and shipped. We took the worst parts of the conversation and they blew to the top of the LSF. Yay. Dr. K is back at the top of LSF showing narcissists how they're such [ __ ]

This world that I know you guys love. Oh

my god. Love to blame Hassan. Love to

blame all these hypocrites and everyone escaping responsibility and everyone who deflects. Do y'all take accountability

deflects. Do y'all take accountability for your part in this? And this is where people I'd be like, "Yeah, [ __ ] yeah. [ __ ] deserves it, bro. I wish I could have done more." Right? But what I want what

done more." Right? But what I want what I want y'all to really understand is that in a relationship, which this is a parasocial relationship, there is the way that I behave and there is the way

that y'all behave. What gets created between us has contributions from both sides, right? And like I think

sides, right? And like I think especially with like just talking about Thor for a second. So, I I know that everyone like loves to burn him and things like that, but the number of people that like we got so much positive

feedback. They're like, "Oh, I'm like

feedback. They're like, "Oh, I'm like this, too. Can you please help me change

this, too. Can you please help me change because it's [ __ ] up my relationships?" Right? I'm not saying

relationships?" Right? I'm not saying that he's bad or anything like that.

It's it's like we do this to try to help people, not to try to tear people down.

And unless we start talking to each other and if we keep talking across each other and having these like you know literally like I'm going to react to this and I'm going to react to this was I saw the title of the stream and I was like oh my god I'm doing it too. Talk

about hypocrisy. Here I am. Stop talking

about people. Stop talking across people right? And maybe I this is me trying to

right? And maybe I this is me trying to not be hypocritical. This is me trying to notice hey like I'm part of the problem too. I'm a streamer too. I do it

problem too. I'm a streamer too. I do it too. Like I'm not perfect in this by any

too. Like I'm not perfect in this by any means. today may [ __ ] up people's lives

means. today may [ __ ] up people's lives in ways that I really don't intend and I really do think that it's over y'all.

So, which is why I'm kind of talking about it now, but like it's just such a good example of what is wrong on the internet. If all criticism of things

internet. If all criticism of things online can be just dismissed and boiled down to your own pentup anger and resentment, how is any accountability ever in anything? So, this is important to understand. Great question. So, if

to understand. Great question. So, if

I'm like, aha, his son didn't do nothing wrong. It is your pentup resentment that

wrong. It is your pentup resentment that is displaced onto him and he has grit, right? How will there ever be

right? How will there ever be accountability? Here's what I'm saying.

accountability? Here's what I'm saying.

I know it's wild. How about we give the appropriate amount of accountability to the people who deserve it? So, does Don deserve accountability? Absolutely.

deserve accountability? Absolutely.

Should we hold him accountable?

Absolutely. Should we hold me accountable? Absolutely. All I'm saying

accountable? Absolutely. All I'm saying is when there is this pent up resentment and displacement, and I'm betting y'all money that you have been on the receiving end of this, I've seen this so much. When you're the black sheep of the

much. When you're the black sheep of the family, when you're the person who people don't like at work, when you are a racial minority and you get a displaced amount of hatred, how does

that feel? So, I'm not advocating for an

that feel? So, I'm not advocating for an absence of accountability at all. What

I'm saying is let us have an appropriate amount of accountability for people and what they did. I have too much hope for people. Yeah. So, here's the last thing

people. Yeah. So, here's the last thing I'm going to say. I think most people do the best that they know how to do. They

do the best. Honestly, most people kind of do the best that they can. And

sometimes that's pretty bad. But I I don't I don't I think that like, you know, when I've worked with people who are streamers, there's there's a certain narcissism that is like a a necessary

developmental piece that comes with streaming. So, I don't know if this kind

streaming. So, I don't know if this kind of makes sense, but see, when you get criticized by one person, it hurts. When

you are a gigantic streamer and you get criticized by 10,000 people, 100,000 people, your brain doesn't view that criticism probabilistically. That's not

criticism probabilistically. That's not how our brain works. Our brain doesn't do a calculation of, okay, 99% of people like me, 1% of people hate me. It just

looks at the 1% of people that hates you or the 10,000 people who hate you or the 100,000 people who hate you. And that's

very psychologically traumatic. It's not

a percentage. That's just our brain is bad at probability. There's all kinds of studies about this. You can look at things like the Monty Hall problem and things like that. It's why human beings play the lottery and it's why human beings gamble because we suck at

probabilistic thinking. And so when

probabilistic thinking. And so when you're a streamer, it requires, right?

Because some people are going to hate you no matter what. And how do you protect your psyche from people who hate you no matter what? There's a series of defense mechanisms that we'll use. The

narcissistic defense mechanism is one of the biggest ones, right? because I can't receive that person's opinion because if I receive that person's opinion and the 9,000 other people with them, like I

won't be able to wake up tomorrow morning. So, I have to deflect. Is it

morning. So, I have to deflect. Is it

healthy? It's adaptive. I don't think it's the healthiest thing that you can do. Does it cause problems? Does it

do. Does it cause problems? Does it

create sort of narcissistic patterns of thought? Absolutely. Are those bad?

thought? Absolutely. Are those bad?

Absolutely. Do those kinds of patterns of thought encourage people to avoid accountability, to be a little bit gaslighty towards themselves and the people around them? Absolutely. But it's

a feature of the profession. That's my

honest belief. There's other details and nuances there that we can kind of go into. Hey y'all, hope you enjoyed

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