String Theory is “Fashion,” Penrose Said. We Finally Have a Response
By Sabine Hossenfelder
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Penrose: String theory's extra dimensions are a problem**: Roger Penrose argues that the energy in our universe is sufficient to excite the extra dimensions required by string theory, an observable phenomenon that has not been detected. [01:37] - **String theorists' response to Penrose's critique**: String theorists respond that observable effects from extra dimensions require localized energy, not spread-out energy, and that the relevant quantity is energy within a volume of spacetime. [03:45] - **String theory's equations have infinite corrections**: Both Penrose and the new paper agree that string theory's equations for spacetime have infinitely many corrections, a problem that Penrose believes string theory was meant to solve. [04:29] - **Scientific discourse: Criticism and response**: The interaction between Penrose's criticism and the string theorists' response is presented as an ideal example of scientific discourse, where critiques are addressed to advance understanding. [05:04]
Topics Covered
- Can Mathematicians Truly Succeed in Physics?
- Does Universal Energy Excite String Theory's Hidden Dimensions?
- Does String Theory Demand Infinite Initial Data?
- How Does Science Truly Progress: Criticism and Debate?
Full Transcript
String
theory has attracted a lot of criticism.
It's often used as an example for
everything that goes wrong in the
foundations of physics. So much so that
a lot of people think I'm criticizing
string theory even when I'm not.
Sometimes I'm breathing in a German
accent. Okay, but this video isn't about
me. It's about not the loudest but the
most respected string theory critic,
Roger Penrose. His criticism now got a
very detailed reply from string
theorists. I had a look at the paper.
Roger Penrose won a Nobel Prize in 2020
for his work on black holes, notably the
singularity theorems. I've met quite a
few Nobel Prize winners over the years,
but Penrose stands out among them. For
one thing, his background is in
mathematics rather than physics, and
usually mathematicians don't get
anywhere in physics. They just end up
proving theorem after theorem with
little relevance for reality. Think Ed
Whitten. The other thing that's special
about Penos is that he writes popular
science books that are quite technical
indeed and yet find a large audience.
I'd go so far to say that Penos has
established somewhat of a new style of
scholarly communication and physics. But
now about string theory. In 2016,
Penrose published a book called Fashion,
Faith, and Fantasy. The fashion part is
about string theory. In his book, he
argues string theory has some serious
problems that string theorists seem to
entirely ignore. One example he has is
the question of what all these extra
dimensions are doing in a universe
that's filled with energy. If you
remember, in string theory, one needs
additional dimensions of space other
than the three that we're used to. These
additional dimensions can't be infinite
in extension. They must be very small,
otherwise we'd already have noticed
them. The strings can wrap around the
dimensions and oscillate in them. The
wavelengths of these oscillations have
to fit to the size of the extra
dimensions. This is where the analogy to
violin strings comes from. These
oscillations are like the harmonics of a
violin string. Now, usually string
theorists say that we don't see any of
the higher harmonics because the energy
to make the strings oscillate is
extremely high somewhere at the plank
energy. So, you need a particle collider
the size of the galaxy to make the
oscillations in the extra dimensions
wiggle and observe them. Pen however
says that this doesn't make sense
because you see these extra dimensions
aren't in one place. They're everywhere.
This is like you know the direction up
isn't just here above me it's
everywhere. And then Panu says if you
take the entire energy that's in our
space then that's easily enough to make
the strings in the extra dimensions
vibrate. The problem is that this would
be observable and we don't observe it.
Henos writes, "Although the plank energy
is indeed very large when compared with
normal particle physics energies, it's
still not that big an energy being
comparable with the energy released in
the explosion of about one ton of TNT.
There is of course enormously more
energy than this available in the known
universe. For example, the energy
received from the sun by the earth in 1
second is some 10 to the 8 times larger
on energy terms alone that it be far
more than sufficient to excite the extra
dimensions for the entire universe. The
authors of the new paper now review this
and several others of Penrose's
arguments on the matter of the vibrating
extra dimensions. They say that to get
any observable effect, one really needs
all this energy to be localized in one
region and not be spread out through the
universe. It's because they show the
relevant quantities, not the total
energy, but the energy in a volume of
spaceime. If one wants to create an
oscillation in these extra dimensions
everywhere in the universe, one would
still have to first create it locally
and then get it to spread. easiest way
to recognize a true science paper
footnotes large enough to camp in. They
address several other points of
Penrose's critique, but there's one that
they agree on. It's that the equations
that one needs to describe our space
time in string theory are not just
Einstein's equations. They have
infinitely many corrections. Penrose
worries that this requires specifying
infinitely detailed initial data, which
ironically is very similar to the
problem with infinitely many correction
terms that string theory was meant to
solve. The new paper agrees that this is
a genuine open question and deserves
proper analysis. More work is needed.
The reason I'm telling you about this is
not so much to do with string theory is
that it's a lovely example of scientific
discourse done right. Someone raises a
criticism, someone else addresses it.
This is how science progresses with
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