Tech earnings take center stage
By CNBC Television
Summary
## Key takeaways - **Tech Earnings: Not an Inflection Point**: The recent market movements in tech stocks are not seen as a significant inflection point, but rather a return to normalcy after a period of strong outperformance from AI-adjacent companies. [00:22] - **Cloud Revenue Key for AI Monetization**: The common theme across recent tech earnings reports is the focus on cloud revenue as the key indicator for how companies are monetizing AI spending and where future capital investments are directed. [01:16] - **Microsoft's Strong Bookings and RPO**: Despite a slight miss on Azure growth, Microsoft's commercial bookings surged 111% year-over-year, and their RPO (remaining performance obligations) grew 51%, indicating strong future revenue potential. [02:18] - **Meta's Growth Justifies Higher Expenses**: While Meta's increased expenses are noted, they are directly contributing to strong revenue growth, with 21% projected for the year and operating margins at 40%, supported by a 14% rise in ad impressions. [03:51], [04:23] - **Alphabet's Search and Cloud Strength**: Alphabet's search business is performing robustly, exceeding expectations, and its cloud services have grown 34% with a significant backlog increase, demonstrating a multi-cylinder engine firing on all cylinders. [05:08], [06:26] - **Meta's Debt Issuance and Market Reaction**: Meta's issuance of $25 billion in bonds, while concerning to some, is viewed by analysts as a move to fund significant expected growth, with the market potentially overreacting to the expense increase. [08:06], [08:45]
Topics Covered
- Market Correction Is Return to Normalcy
- AI Spending Fuels Cloud Revenue Growth
- Meta's Expenses Are Driving Strong Growth
- Google's Search Business Is Thriving
- Alphabet's Cloud Business Is Surging
Full Transcript
back. Joe Turnov, I want to turn to you
with that. I was just looking at the
things that are the names that are
having the biggest negative impact on
the S&P. It's not surprisingly Meta and
Microsoft, but it's Nvidia, it's AMD,
it's Oracle. It's all those names that
have been powering the market higher so
far this year. Is this a meaningful
inflection point or is this just a
reaction to some earnings and people
deciding, I guess, to to put their bets
in different places?
>> No, I I do not believe that this is an
inflection point. And I think this is
just a return to a degree of normaly off
of what has been a really strong
outperformance from the segment of the
market that you just identified. MAG 7
AI adjacent. Keep in mind the
significant underperformance of the S&P
equal weight. Over the last several
days, we were citing statistics that the
differential in performance between the
S&P and the S&P equal weight was the
largest that we had seen since the
1990s. So if you run an equally weighted
strategy, I'll raise my hand. Okay. When
you run that equally weighted strategy,
a day like today offers a degree of
relief. S&P equal weight is up about 40
basis points. So you're kind of getting
a little bit of a return to normaly more
than anything else. We'll dig into the
numbers as it relates to the three mega
caps that reported. There was some good
there, there was some bad there, but I
think the commonality of all of it was
about okay, what's your cloud revenue?
because that's how we're going to see if
you're monetizing the AI spending and
what are you thinking about looking
forward in terms of your AI spending and
where's that capital going to be coming
from.
>> All right, speaking of commonality,
Microsoft and Meta, they have one thing
in common taking that charge. Now,
investors don't seem to like surprises.
Other than that, they seem like pretty
good reports. Um, other than raising the
capex, were there something else in
those two reports that you didn't like
that you think justifies these downside
moves? No, I thought these quarters were
both of them were very good uh expenses.
That's the that's the sensitive point
for all of these stocks. How much are
these companies spending? We know they
were going to spend $400 billion in
capex, the the big ones, the big names
this year. Uh now it seems to be even a
little bit more. So for me, I looked at
Microsoft and I was I'm not I was not an
owner yesterday. I am now an owner today
because I'm I'm looking at this report
and they beat in all three segments.
They grew, they beat revenues by 3%.
They had commercial bookings up 111%
year-over-year. Their RPOS grew 51%.
That's future look at revenues to come.
Azure, I know everyone wanted 40% Azure
growth. They got 39%. I think that is
silly because it expanded to 200 basis
points, but that was the the sticking
point. Uh they wanted a clear beat. I
think that still is very very positive.
And so to me down 3 and a half 4% when
it opened this morning I I uh started
adding to a position.
>> You know in all fairness that 40% was
kind of the whisper number. They did
actually beat the estimates according to
street account but 40% was kind of that
number out there in the street lurking.
I want to go back to that RPO. I was
actually talking to the team about that
up 51% year-over-year about $300 billion
and it doesn't account for open AI. So
it could be even bigger. We made such a
big deal about Oracle and their RPO. Why
do you think investors are just
shrugging off Microsoft's RPO? They're
just look the stock was up 28% headed
into the print and they were expecting a
a big beat a bigger beat in Azure really
that was really the the the story the
last couple of quarters the company has
been able to beat their Azure numbers by
300 and 400 basis points. So this this
only 200 basis point beat is the reason
why I think you're just seeing a sell
the news. There's nothing in here that
is alarming whatsoever. And if you want
to go into meta, we can go into meta
because that quarter
>> you let us there, Steph. You must go
there. I'm gonna go there because I
added to that this morning, too, because
I think down 12% is absolutely silly.
Look, I mean, I I was not happy that
expenses went higher. None of us are
happy that expenses went higher, but the
higher expenses are leading to very
strong growth. You're going to see 21%
growth this year in total revenues,
operating margins at 40%. If you look at
what they actually reported in the
quarter, they beat revenues by 400 basis
points and grew 26%. Operating margins
also beat at 40.1%.
The family of of apps that actually beat
as well. So you see the revenue is
coming in in uh better than expected.
And so the spend is working and also by
the way they're seeing ad impressions up
14% and price per ad up 10%. They're
seeing monetization. That is exactly
what I wanted to see. So, not happy at
all about expenses, but down 12% after
you see this kind of growth. So, you're
now at 21 times forward estimates for
21% plus growth.
>> Steph, you came ready to talk about met.
You had all the metrics right at the tip
of the tongue there. Jim, I don't leave
you out of this one. You own Alphabet. I
mean, everything was pretty good.
Everything was pretty good. One of the
things I that really stuck out to me was
the Gemini numbers, the monthly numbers.
I mean, tra trailing OpenAI by a lot. it
was 650 million uh a month compared to
like 800 million a week. So there's a
big gap there. But is that encouraging
when you're seeing that growth from
Gemini? At the same time the search
numbers beat expectations.
>> Yeah, the search numbers beating
expectations is very encouraging. So is
the fact that the cloud services Frank
are up 34% and YouTube's doing well etc
etc. I mean basically this is a
multi-cylinder engine that is firing on
all cylinders. I I think what is
intriguing though is where you started
which because if you go back five months
ago we had a big controversy in the
markets about what exactly was going on
with the search business at Alphabet at
Google and you'll remember Eddie Q uh
senior vice president at Apple was
testifying that uh on Safari they were
seeing Google search uh queries going
down that evening just to remind
everybody that evening Google came out
with a press release saying hey we're
seeing search queries going up including
on Safari now that I I have been unable
to square those two facts, those two
statements since then. And what we've
had in addition since then are two
earnings reports from Alphabets that
that clearly shows the search business
is growing really quite well. And they
they've figured out how to use
artificial intelligence, whether it's
the AI overview, Gemini, they have many
uh different ways that they are figuring
out how to monetize and use AI. So I
think in this controversy, this this
conflict that I can't resolve, it's now
clear that Google Alphabet was right and
the search revenue is going
terrifically. Let me go also to the
cloud business. As I said, up 34%
increasing margins. Uh you've got a huge
backlog. I think the backlog was up 45%.
A lot of that coming from companies like
Anthropic. Um so there's just a lot of
things going right at Alphabet. Steph to
what you said about Meta and the
valuation. Totally agree. I'm not in
that stock, but the valuation, you know,
where it is on Alphabet is similar,
meaning that there are probably future
gains ahead. I will say this regards to
the overall market, whether it's Meta
down, Microsoft, look, the markets don't
go up every day. You know, the last
several days, we've kind of gotten
accustomed to Nvidia, I know we haven't
talked about it, but Nvidia adding $200
billion of market cap a day. Guys,
that's not going to continue every day.
Let's take a breath here.
>> If I could react a little bit first, I
think Meta now is actually cheaper. Yes,
it is.
>> Then then Alphabet
>> 21 times versus 24 times.
>> Alph Al Alphabet's quarter, Jimmy,
you're I mean that was a fantastic
quarter and the strength of YouTube is
is remarkable. I heard David Faber on
the network talking about this with Mike
Sani. If you think about YouTube, the
valuation's probably right now rivaling
Netflix.
>> That's why I was about to say
>> it's right there. So, it's it's
remarkable what they've done with
YouTube. Steph, I just want to ask you
is because some people have said to me
this morning, well, okay, why is Meta
utilizing the debt market and any any
reference, any uh engineering of
utilizing debt from these mag seven
companies is something that the the
marketplace is going to frown on and
say, "Okay, here we go. We're going back
to the '9s."
>> We're not going back to the
>> I don't think we are, but I know I know
what you're getting. I know what you're
getting at. I don't really care how they
>> Well, clearly you don't care. You bought
more. Well, of course,
>> but is it concerning for them to take
out uh $25 billion in bonds? And if this
is concerning, why wasn't it concerning
when Oracle did? Oracle issued some
concern when it is. I mean, the day that
Oracle made the announcement is the
high. The stock has has not traded
higher. That was it. It went parabolic
and it has gone down. So, no, Oracle
loves debt.
>> Not to the degree that that u Meta is
not to the degree that Oracle is in
terms of its endearment of utilizing
debt, but I don't know. You just look at
you say to yourself well why is Meta
have to
>> why are they issuing debt
>> right why do they have to issue 25
billion
>> because they probably well they do see
growth I mean to raise the expenses from
114 to 116 billion up to 11618 billion
just this year alone and then they said
next year is going to be noticeably more
than this year I mean that is huge these
are huge numbers
>> these are huge numbers
>> but they're but my point is is is that
while I'm disappointed in it
>> they're seeing results like the family
of apps right 25.9 9% growth. It
expanded 410 basis points sequentially.
That's crazy growth for a company of
this size.
>> So, you think we could trust management
more than we were uh years ago when they
were spending money and we were like,
"Wait a second."
>> Cuz we weren't seeing the results.
>> See, we are seeing the monetization here
and the price per ad tells you that at
10%. That's very impressive. And they
were one of the first to see
monetization and so they obviously see
it. They want to build momentum off of
it and they want to they're going to
increase expenses as a result. I look
again for the third time. I'm not happy
that they're spending more, but if it
wasn't leading to results, that's where
I would actually sell the
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