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Why did SSI's co-founder join Meta? – Illya Sutskever

By Dwarkesh Clips

Summary

Topics Covered

  • SSI Tests Promising Safety Ideas
  • Co-Founder Chose Meta Liquidity
  • SSI's Distinct Technical Approach
  • AI Strategies Converge on Alignment

Full Transcript

What is SSI planning on doing differently? So presumably your plan is

differently? So presumably your plan is to be one of the frontier companies when this time arrives and then what is presumably you started SSI because

you're like I I think I have a way of approaching how to do this safely in a way that the other companies don't. What

what is that difference? So the way I would describe it as there are some ideas that I think are promising and I want to investigate them and see if they are indeed promising or

not. It's really that simple. It's an

not. It's really that simple. It's an

attempt. I think that if the ideas turn out to be correct, these ideas that we discussed around understanding generalization.

>> If these ideas turn out to be correct, then I think we will have something worthy. Will they turn out to be

worthy. Will they turn out to be correct? We are doing research. We are

correct? We are doing research. We are

squarely age of research company. We are

making progress. We've actually made quite good progress over the past year.

But we need to keep making more progress, >> more research.

>> And that's how I see it. I see it as an attempt to be an attempt to be a voice and a participant.

Um people have asked uh your co-founder and previous CEO left to go to Meta recently and people have asked well if there was a lot of breakthroughs being

made that seems like a thing that should have been unlikely. I wonder how you respond.

>> Yeah. So I in for for this I will simply remind a few facts that may have been forgotten and I think this these facts which provide the context I think they

explain the situation. So the context was that we were fundraising at a 32 billion valuation

and then Meta um came in and offered to to acquire us and I said no but my former co-founder

like in some sense said yes and as a result he also was able to enjoy from a lot of near-term liquidity and he was the only person from SSI to join Meta.

It sounds like SSI's plan is to be a company that is at the frontier when you get to this very important period in human history where you have superhuman intelligence and you have these ideas about how to

make superhuman intelligence go well but other companies will be trying their own ideas. What distinguishes SSI's approach

ideas. What distinguishes SSI's approach to making super intelligence go well?

The >> the main thing that distinguishes SSI is its technical approach.

So we have a different technical approach that I think is worthy and we are pursuing it.

I maintain that in the end there will be a convergence of strategies. So I think there will be a convergence of strategies where at some point as AI becomes more

powerful it's going to become more or less clearer to everyone what the strategy should be. And it should be something

should be. And it should be something like, yeah, you need to find some way to talk to each other. And you want your first

actual like real super intelligent AI to be aligned and somehow be, you know, care for sentient life, care

for people, democratic, one of those, some combination of thereof. And I think this is the condition

that everyone should strive for and that's what SSI is striving for and I think that with time if not already all the other companies will realizing that

they're striving towards the same thing and we'll see. I think that the world will truly change as AI becomes more powerful.

>> Yeah. And I think a lot of these forecasts will like I think things will be really different and people will be acting really differently. If you

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